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[Beengay fudgepackers]

I just really want to see them meet Arizona in the Elite 8 but I doubt that will happen either...

UAB mopping the floor with UCLA is a very likely scenario. UCLA playing Arizona in the elite 8 is not.

 

[BUD]

I didn't get to see the game, but from what others have said im glad that I missed it. The Bruins won and that's all that matters

 

[MI Nightmare]

I've seen lobs and passes get closer to the cylinder that were plucked out of mid air by both offensive and defensive players, and not get called.

Horrible angle of what's been shown here. It can't be determined though I agree that the ball should not have been touched. Just too close to risk it.

 

[Vitamike]

I've seen lobs and passes get closer to the cylinder that were plucked out of mid air by both offensive and defensive players, and not get called.

Horrible angle of what's been shown here. It can't be determined though I agree that the ball should not have been touched. Just too close to risk it.

^^^THIS^^^

 

[Vitamike]

UAB mopping the floor with UCLA is a very likely scenario. UCLA playing Arizona in the elite 8 is not.

Describe your definition of 'mopping the floor'. What is that like, at least 10+ point win where winner had at least a 20+ point lead in the game at one point?

Would you say that is mopping the floor?

Just curious?

 

[trojanfan12]

UAB mopping the floor with UCLA is a very likely scenario. UCLA playing Arizona in the elite 8 is not.

Considering that Arizona is in the West region and UCLA is in the South region, you're right. They'd both have to make the title game to play each other.

 

[trojanfan12]

The problem with the call was not that it was a bad call. Considering how close it was, it was an extremely difficult call to make one way or the other. If the refs felt it was close enough, they HAVE to make that call if they're going to call the game correctly.

I haven't seen any angles that are definitive enough to show that the ball wasn't going to hit the rim, therefore, the call probably wouldn't have been overturned if it had been reviewable.

Having said that, goaltending needs to be a reviewable call.

Above all, that player never should have touched that ball that close to the rim. It's Basketball 101.

 

[gordontrue]

Let's say that the play was reviewable.

Now let's say that they overturn the call. (I think the call would have been upheld personally if reviewed).

Now what? UCLA gets the ball out of bounds? Now UCLA is penalized getting the ball out of bounds instead of under the basket.

It makes sense why a call during the play of goaltend is not reviewable.... if it wasn't called... something else might have happened. Unless you train the refs to not call it live... wait for the current play to end... and then review the goaltend. That sounds like too much work for every single goaltend call.

 

[Vitamike]

Considering that Arizona is in the West region and UCLA is in the South region, you're right. They'd both have to make the title game to play each other.

Right, the PAC Elite 8 match-up would be Utah.

That's what I get for posting before I've had my first cup of coffee.

I'd still don't believe UAB mopping the floor with UCLA is a very likely scenario.

 

[OregonDucks]

It's like calling a pass interference call....this was a PI called for a throw thst was thrown 10 ft over the dudes head and 10 yards deeper.

 

[trojanfan12]

It's like calling a pass interference call....this was a PI called for a throw thst was thrown 10 ft over the dudes head and 10 yards deeper.

Not even close. Can't even say nice try, you're so far off on this. There's no angle whatsoever that shows the ball wouldn't have at least grazed the rim.

What the SMU kid did was more like a punt that isn't fielded, everyone is yelling get away from it and one player gets too close, makes contact with the ball and the punting team gets the ball back.

If that kid did what he was supposed to do and just blocks out, the ball probably lands right in his lap. Instead, he jumped up and swatted the ball away like he was blocking the shot. I feel bad for the kid because he's a senior and that will be the last thing he does as an SMU basketball player, but he knew better.

 

[trojanfan12]

Let's say that the play was reviewable.

Now let's say that they overturn the call. (I think the call would have been upheld personally if reviewed).

Now what? UCLA gets the ball out of bounds? Now UCLA is penalized getting the ball out of bounds instead of under the basket.

It makes sense why a call during the play of goaltend is not reviewable.... if it wasn't called... something else might have happened. Unless you train the refs to not call it live... wait for the current play to end... and then review the goaltend. That sounds like too much work for every single goaltend call.

I don't see the problem if they overturn the call after review. The point of reviewable calls is to get the call right. If reversing it was the right call and UCLA gets the ball out of bounds and has to try again, that's better than SMU losing because the refs blew the call and it couldn't be changed on review.

Also, it's not like goaltending is that common of a call, so it's not like it would be happening all of the time.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Describe your definition of 'mopping the floor'. What is that like, at least 10+ point win where winner had at least a 20+ point lead in the game at one point?

Would you say that is mopping the floor?

Just curious?

Something like that. A game in which UCLA never really came within contention.

 

[Vitamike]

Something like that. A game in which UCLA never really came within contention.

Of course I was hoping you would agree..

That was the scenario when these two teams met earlier in the season.

UCLA had a 22 point lead in the third quarter and a 12 point victory at the end of the game.

UCLA Bruins vs. UAB Blazers Recap - CBSSports.com

Sooooo...

UCLA has already mopped the floor with UAB and that should make the whole premise of UAB doing the same anything but 'very likely'!

As a matter of fact, it would make that scenario, 'very unlikely'...

Doesn't mean it wont happen either way.

We are just speaking to the 'likelihood'.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Of course I was hoping you would agree..

That was the scenario when these two teams met earlier in the season.

UCLA had a 22 point lead in the third quarter and a 12 point victory at the end of the game.

UCLA Bruins vs. UAB Blazers Recap - CBSSports.com

Sooooo...

UCLA has already mopped the floor with UAB and that should make the whole premise of UAB doing the same anything but 'very likely'!

As a matter of fact, it would make that scenario, 'very unlikely'...

Doesn't mean it wont happen either way.

We are just speaking to the 'likelihood'.

IM still right though. I said I hope it happens. I also said it is very likely when comparing it to UCLA meeting Arizona in the elite 8, which, as another poster pointed out, is impossible. So yes, compared to something that has a 0 % chance of happening, UAB mopping the floor with UCLA is very likely.

 

[Vitamike]

I don't see the problem if they overturn the call after review. The point of reviewable calls is to get the call right. If reversing it was the right call and UCLA gets the ball out of bounds and has to try again, that's better than SMU losing because the refs blew the call and it couldn't be changed on review.

Also, it's not like goaltending is that common of a call, so it's not like it would be happening all of the time.

Is it, when UCLA likely get the rebound in position for the easy put back without the call for the tie?

Neither team benefits from a bad call, period.

The onus is on the defender, he has got to know he put the game on his decision by reaching for a ball that was still very much to be called over the cylinder.

He knows this!

He took the gamble and he put that call on him nobody else. How can anybody say anything about UCLA other than they had no impact on that other than the probability of that ball hitting rim?

 

[Vitamike]

IM still right though. I said I hope it happens. I also said it is very likely when comparing it to UCLA meeting Arizona in the elite 8, which, as another poster pointed out, is impossible. So yes, compared to something that has a 0 % chance of happening,

UAB mopping the floor with UCLA is very likely.

You can't use the word 'likely' and be right in that sentence. other than pure opinion.

 

[trojanfan12]

Is it, when UCLA likely get the rebound in position for the easy put back without the call for the tie?

Neither team benefits from a bad call, period.

The onus is on the defender, he has got to know he put the game on his decision by reaching for a ball that was still very much to be called over the cylinder.

He knows this!

He took the gamble and he put that call on him nobody else. How can anybody say anything about UCLA other than they had no impact on that other than the probability of that ball hitting rim?

True, but at least UCLA would have the ball again with a chance to tie or win the game and SMU doesn't lose on a bad call. There's no perfect scenario in that situation. Bottom line though, the kid essentially put the game in the hands of the refs by doing something that he knew better than to do.

 

[Vitamike]

True, but at least UCLA would have the ball again with a chance to tie or win the game and SMU doesn't lose on a bad call. There's no perfect scenario in that situation.
Bottom line: The kid essentially put the game in the hands of the refs by doing something that he knew better than to do.

Bottom line.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

You can't use the word 'likely' and be right in that sentence. other than pure opinion.

Yes huh! It's a fact! Very likely is subjective and could mean anything!