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Skin'EmAll

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Haslett is likely gone, any one know of the likely replacements?

Are you hoping for another 3-4 guy or a 4-3 guy?
 

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Haslett is likely gone, any one know of the likely replacements?

Are you hoping for another 3-4 guy or a 4-3 guy?

i cant see how we go to a 4-3 defense, which will take a couple of years to get the players , with this fan base and owner
 

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I think I agree, McShay gave me the wild idea, but with how bad things have gotten I'm not sure the organization may not try something crazy or just go a different route
 

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Haslett is likely gone, any one know of the likely replacements?

Are you hoping for another 3-4 guy or a 4-3 guy?
Rex Ryan should be available.
 

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i cant see how we go to a 4-3 defense, which will take a couple of years to get the players , with this fan base and owner

actually I don't think it will take as long as you might think to make the switch
 

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actually I don't think it will take as long as you might think to make the switch

took that long to switch from the 4-3 to 3-4 and history says it will take time
 

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took that long to switch from the 4-3 to 3-4 and history says it will take time

That's because we should have never switched. I agree with Country. I don't think it would take as long as people think. The biggest impact would be on the LB corps. Riley can man the middle, Robinson one OLB and we need to find another. Kerrigan and Trent can both play with their hand in the dirt. We have plently of DE/DT type talent that has already played in the scheme.
 

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Rex Ryan (if fired) or Wade Phillips are my top choices. I'm in favor of going back to the 4-3 as well. The defense needs a new coach. Players just aren't getting coached correctly. Same mistakes over and over. 5 years.
 

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Rex Ryan (if fired) or Wade Phillips are my top choices. I'm in favor of going back to the 4-3 as well. The defense needs a new coach. Players just aren't getting coached correctly. Same mistakes over and over. 5 years.

I think you are right about players getting coached correctly. I would like to see a proven DC and see if we have more talent here than what we think.
 

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That's because we should have never switched. I agree with Country. I don't think it would take as long as people think. The biggest impact would be on the LB corps. Riley can man the middle, Robinson one OLB and we need to find another. Kerrigan and Trent can both play with their hand in the dirt. We have plently of DE/DT type talent that has already played in the scheme.

we have age in the d/line . hatcher , cofield , bowen , golston are all over the age of 30 . you are taking a rookie and turning him into a de when his stats scream rotaional type at this point and you are most likely moving a 2x pro bowler to a position he hadnt played in almost 4 years

then you want to move our successful ILB to OLB while keep our avg ILb at mlb and then we have to draft a replacement just to field a starter

so we would be needing to draft some young talent in the next coming drafts while also trying to build an o/line , possibly a qb , and a secondary as well

so i dont think my 2 years 1 to train the players in games and see what we need and year 2 getting them and having them gell is out of line by any stretch

so are you ready for more losses? and of course the impatience of everyone will call for a switch back to the 3-4 after our 1st preseason game in it

now i dont mind going with the 4-3 but as i said on the espn board it will take time to get the players we want and get a top ten defense if we move to the 34(at the time )

it has been 4 years and we might do that this year so there is the model right there in front of us

on one hand i hear about "20 years of suffering " but we spin wheels yet again redoing stuff over and over .

we gut 2 drafts to get a qb and 4 years later we are back at square one and our other areas of need get left un attended
 
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Don't understand why it makes a difference if the team runs a 3-4 or 4-3. As I have said many times that is just a base defense. Many times the Redskins are running a 4-3 anyhow. Anyone watching? I think coaching is an issue, maybe with a new coach we find out we have some players that are better than we think.

Gutting two drafts .... there were some of us that warned about this at the time. It just doesn't make much sense to trade 4 potential starters for one unless that one was going to be a top 5 QB in the league. Nothing suggested that Griffin would be that based on the offense he ran in college. The team drafted a guy in the 4th round that should be getting another chance. If they can coach the INTs out of him he would be a good QB. Instead we are screwing around with guys that have 4 and 5 times as many starts and can't play.
 

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I thought it was the worst kept secret that Rex had a 5 million dollar TV gig waiting for him.
 

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Don't understand why it makes a difference if the team runs a 3-4 or 4-3. As I have said many times that is just a base defense. Many times the Redskins are running a 4-3 anyhow. Anyone watching? I think coaching is an issue, maybe with a new coach we find out we have some players that are better than we think.

Gutting two drafts .... there were some of us that warned about this at the time. It just doesn't make much sense to trade 4 potential starters for one unless that one was going to be a top 5 QB in the league. Nothing suggested that Griffin would be that based on the offense he ran in college. The team drafted a guy in the 4th round that should be getting another chance. If they can coach the INTs out of him he would be a good QB. Instead we are screwing around with guys that have 4 and 5 times as many starts and can't play.

Thank you! Much more important that the team finds a good coach & not worry so much about the system. Honestly - do people really believe that Haslett failed because of his system or because he simply sucks as a coach? I also love how most folks always have to state the names of the most famous people as potential replacements. There are most likely other very good candidates whose names don't immediately come to mind.
 

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I'm just hoping for a replacement. There is still a lot of OLB playing coverage looks instead of the promised "turning them loose" we were waiting for. There is no pass rush from out front 3 and you can only drop back so long in a zone before a receiver finds an open spot. There are some great DT/DE options in the 1st and 2nd round if we did switch back to a 4-3.

This is not to say i'm hoping for a switch, but I do realize that our pass rush and secondary probably can't be fixed in the same year under a 3-4
 

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My only concern about switching to a 43 is possibly screwing with Kerrigan as he is coming into his own.
 

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My only concern about switching to a 43 is possibly screwing with Kerrigan as he is coming into his own.

Then nothing to really worry about, because Kerrigan has spent more time with his hand in the dirt than he has as a stand up LB'er dating back to high school. The adjustment should come naturally.
 

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Firing Haslett must be accompanied with the dismissal of his staff as well, otherwise there's going to be a promotion from within that group. Anybody comfortable with that?
 

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Then nothing to really worry about, because Kerrigan has spent more time with his hand in the dirt than he has as a stand up LB'er dating back to high school. The adjustment should come naturally.

i could care less about high school and college . he is a pro and its a new ballgame up there
 

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i've come to terms with the organization moving on from Haz next year.

Still believe Haz got alot of production out of a defense that lacks talent.

We're a top 10 defense ?

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7 of the top ten defenses run a 34 or hybrid version.

This is true every year & why I want to see this philosophy continued in DC.
 
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