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Alabama won't break a sweat against FSU/Oregon.

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wasn't really bashing the schedule..just saying fsu schedule looks better and without the Georgia st. ill admit I don't know enough about forumulas and things of the bcs make up...but seems as if SOS doesn't hold enough weight to make a difference. texas was also killed by byu. it might get better...maybe they end up playing Missouri in sec championship. but my main focus of the post was Georgia st being 0-7 if that doesn't hit them hard it rankings then that's whats wrong with bcs....its not like they don't already have Chattanooga too.....oh wait.

What you want is for someone to apologize to you for the ways schedules get done and the way the BCS and other polls ranks teams. Want some apologies, go see the people who run those organizations. For Bama and its fans, we take the games one at a time and let the rest work itself out. Maybe thats some good advice for you and others, worry about your games one at a time and no others and you will be better off.
 

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I wonder what the modern era record is for consecutive 1st half shutouts?

It has probably been done a few times in the old leather helmet days of 3-0 games.

But, in the modern era. Even overmatched teams occasionally score a FG in the 1st half.

Alabama has done it SIX consecutive times.

If they can keep that potent LSU offense stuck on a first half zero, that would have to be some sort of record.

Impressive. Only team they played with a pulse was Ole Miss. But Michigan St hasn't given up a TD in 12 comsecutive quarters, also very impressive.
 

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Alabama will not have an easy time. That's assuming they get there. It's not a given. I think they can trample LSU this week, Auburn is another question. If they do make the SEC game with a loss, there is no way they make the nc game.

Florida St has the defense to give Alabama a great team. Doubt if Oregon would beat them. Defense is suspect.
 

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Are there really people out there that feel that Alabama should NOT be #1? Even if you do nothing but look at SOS and debate all of their wins vs. other teams, it should really not matter. Everyone should know (even if they hate it) that Alabama is the top team in the country right now. No matter what their SOS is or what every other team is doing, until someone beats them, there really is no argument.
 

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What you want is for someone to apologize to you for the ways schedules get done and the way the BCS and other polls ranks teams. Want some apologies, go see the people who run those organizations. For Bama and its fans, we take the games one at a time and let the rest work itself out. Maybe thats some good advice for you and others, worry about your games one at a time and no others and you will be better off.

so your saying Alabama athletic department has nothing to do with schedule made year after year? they have to have something to do with 1 non conference road game in 10 years
 

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so your saying Alabama athletic department has nothing to do with schedule made year after year? they have to have something to do with 1 non conference road game in 10 years

No, what I am saying is that too much is made of schedules and how many FCS teams, lower tier teams, and lesser OOC teams. In the end if you can play and win all your games, you should be in the discussion. Its not like every team out there is playing a tough OOC or in conference schedule either. Bama takes its games one at a time and it doesnt matter who it is, they give that team a game and play it to the best of its ability, then move on. Funny how the simplest of games can come back to bite top contender/pretender teams when they least expect it. And its not like Alabama doesnt schedule one top game each year OOC, cant help if that team doesnt always live up to its part of the bargain, as in VT this year, Michigan last year. those were supposed to be better teams when the games were scheduled, so blame them, not us.

Again, want apologies, ask someone who matters or cares, because i surely dont.
 

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Are there really people out there that feel that Alabama should NOT be #1? Even if you do nothing but look at SOS and debate all of their wins vs. other teams, it should really not matter. Everyone should know (even if they hate it) that Alabama is the top team in the country right now. No matter what their SOS is or what every other team is doing, until someone beats them, there really is no argument.

im not so sure their number 1 ranking isn't based off of last year and not so much how good they are or aren't this year...I saw a #1 usc play Hawaii in the opener last year...Alabama beat #10 at the time I think in Michigan...and Alabama instantly jumped usc. now fast forward to today... Alabama 4 straight games vs unranked opponents. florida st with wins over #3 and number 7....let me brace myself for the oh but usc sucked last year and this year...cool...that doesn't change the fact that Alabama gets favored in rankings when they play a ranked team...and doenst go against them when other teams play ranked teams while they play unranked team...and get 2 bye weeks in a season...*note* no 2nd bye week for florida st
 

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No, what I am saying is that too much is made of schedules and how many FCS teams, lower tier teams, and lesser OOC teams. In the end if you can play and win all your games, you should be in the discussion. Its not like every team out there is playing a tough OOC or in conference schedule either. Bama takes its games one at a time and it doesnt matter who it is, they give that team a game and play it to the best of its ability, then move on. Funny how the simplest of games can come back to bite top contender/pretender teams when they least expect it. And its not like Alabama doesnt schedule one top game each year OOC, cant help if that team doesnt always live up to its part of the bargain, as in VT this year, Michigan last year. those were supposed to be better teams when the games were scheduled, so blame them, not us.

Again, want apologies, ask someone who matters or cares, because i surely dont.

true. that why I say all these fcs teams...and clear cupcakes vs sunbelt teams, should be banished from college football. yeah I get it schools make money. every non conference game should be vs another bcs conference. the sec is even against having an extra conference game cuz it takes away from cupcake football. what do you think happens when a top team calls Alabama AD for a game...Oregon, ohio st, etc... I imagine something like this...oh well if you don't want a neutral site game where we don't have to deal with your stadium fans then were not so interested. a game on a road in Oregon 2000 miles away from friendly confines wouldn't be so appealing as u know playing them a few hours away in Atlanta with half of their own fans.

no apologies needed..but lets not act like Alabama doesn't get a little bias here and there....like my other post...they beat Michigan oh yes they must be best team....florida st 2 top 10 teams...oh we cant move them into #1
 

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im not so sure their number 1 ranking isn't based off of last year and not so much how good they are or aren't this year...I saw a #1 usc play Hawaii in the opener last year...Alabama beat #10 at the time I think in Michigan...and Alabama instantly jumped usc. now fast forward to today... Alabama 4 straight games vs unranked opponents. florida st with wins over #3 and number 7....let me brace myself for the oh but usc sucked last year and this year...cool...that doesn't change the fact that Alabama gets favored in rankings when they play a ranked team...and doenst go against them when other teams play ranked teams while they play unranked team...and get 2 bye weeks in a season...*note* no 2nd bye week for florida st

:bawling: am i supposed to bleed for FSU?

Alabama has played some ranked opponents this year and still has atleast two left on its schedule, in fact it has the toughest schedule left out of the top 3 without the SECCG. Again, want apologies, you need to seek it elsewhere.

Comparing Alabama to USC is like comparing a Ferrari to a Yugo. All Alabama did last year was lose once, same as the year before. In fact since the beginning of the 2009 season they have 5 losses. that plays into the decision making of where they are ranked also and losing 5 games in a season you were picked to be good and started Preseason number one plays into why it may take a while for USC to get that kind of respect again.

You as a casual fan can whine and complain about rankings, but they guys who get picked to do it have more than a casual acquaintance with the game and have shown they know football enough to be chosen. good luck with your whine, i could recommend some cheese with that if you need it, but no apologies are forthcoming from me on rankings and schedules.
 

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so your saying Alabama athletic department has nothing to do with schedule made year after year? they have to have something to do with 1 non conference road game in 10 years

Is Atlanta a road game in kick off game 3 times, or MIchigan @ Dallas or, @ Penn St, or @ Hawaii, or @ Duke, @ Florida St in Jacksonville, OU @ Norman? Not sure about California math but that's more than one time in 10 years?
 

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true. that why I say all these fcs teams...and clear cupcakes vs sunbelt teams, should be banished from college football. yeah I get it schools make money. every non conference game should be vs another bcs conference. the sec is even against having an extra conference game cuz it takes away from cupcake football. what do you think happens when a top team calls Alabama AD for a game...Oregon, ohio st, etc... I imagine something like this...oh well if you don't want a neutral site game where we don't have to deal with your stadium fans then were not so interested. a game on a road in Oregon 2000 miles away from friendly confines wouldn't be so appealing as u know playing them a few hours away in Atlanta with half of their own fans.

no apologies needed..but lets not act like Alabama doesn't get a little bias here and there....like my other post...they beat Michigan oh yes they must be best team....florida st 2 top 10 teams...oh we cant move them into #1

Not Nick Saban, he is on record as saying its a good idea and he wants it.

Really, you imagine that, well i imagine it goes something like this. A.D. Battle, this is ESPN on the phone and we wan to set up Alabama to play team XYZ in the Jerry Dome of Georgia Dome, what do you say.Yes? well great.

You know why those games are played in those markets and not home and home in areas that Alabama doesnt recruit in regularly, because of that reason and only that reason. Its no surprise that Alabama has increased its revenue by 112% in the years since Nick has been there, its no surprise that recruiting has gone to about a 12 state region for Alabama and they pull recruits out of other states like Texas, New Jersey, Virginia, Utah etc, etc... This is part of the process and people that hate only see what they want to, not what is actually happening. All a team has to do is say they dont want to play in the game and ESPN and the University will move on to another top team, but to play and possibly beat an Alabama would be a notch in someones belt, so they usually say yes. gotta hate that huh?
 

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im not so sure their number 1 ranking isn't based off of last year and not so much how good they are or aren't this year...I saw a #1 usc play Hawaii in the opener last year...Alabama beat #10 at the time I think in Michigan...and Alabama instantly jumped usc. now fast forward to today... Alabama 4 straight games vs unranked opponents. florida st with wins over #3 and number 7....let me brace myself for the oh but usc sucked last year and this year...cool...that doesn't change the fact that Alabama gets favored in rankings when they play a ranked team...and doenst go against them when other teams play ranked teams while they play unranked team...and get 2 bye weeks in a season...*note* no 2nd bye week for florida st

Note: who did FSU play in week 2 then when Alabama was playing A&M...and who did they play prior to the Clemson game...a bye week is a bye week, and FSU had two like most teams.

At the end of the season, Alabama, FSU and Oregon will all have played schedules that will be about equal.

Regardless, no USC fan should open their trap about media bias...USC is nearly as bad as Notre Dame, it took 5 losses to finally get them out of the rankings last year from the preseason #1.
 

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:bawling: am i supposed to bleed for FSU?

Alabama has played some ranked opponents this year and still has atleast two left on its schedule, in fact it has the toughest schedule left out of the top 3 without the SECCG. Again, want apologies, you need to seek it elsewhere.

Comparing Alabama to USC is like comparing a Ferrari to a Yugo. All Alabama did last year was lose once, same as the year before. In fact since the beginning of the 2009 season they have 5 losses. that plays into the decision making of where they are ranked also and losing 5 games in a season you were picked to be good and started Preseason number one plays into why it may take a while for USC to get that kind of respect again.

You as a casual fan can whine and complain about rankings, but they guys who get picked to do it have more than a casual acquaintance with the game and have shown they know football enough to be chosen. good luck with your whine, i could recommend some cheese with that if you need it, but no apologies are forthcoming from me on rankings and schedules.

im not comparing Alabama to usc just using what happened as a comparison...Alabama got instant ranking in their favor...yet when shoes on the other foot for another team they don't get the same favor.
 

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Is Atlanta a road game in kick off game 3 times, or MIchigan @ Dallas or, @ Penn St, or @ Hawaii, or @ Duke, @ Florida St in Jacksonville, OU @ Norman? Not sure about California math but that's more than one time in 10 years?

why are you counting these neutral sites games road games? Atlanta not a road game...dallas not a road game. penn state is only road game they have had since 2003. Hawaii was prior to that I believe. half stadium of your own fans is no way a road game...florida st in Jacksonville nope not a road game either. seems to me Alabama intentionally avoids playing non conference games in another teams stadium
 

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im not comparing Alabama to usc just using what happened as a comparison...Alabama got instant ranking in their favor...yet when shoes on the other foot for another team they don't get the same favor.

And i stated that only losing 5 games in four years time can have that effect on the voters who make these polls. Benefit of the doubt does play into these polls, or bias if you want to call it that. I certainly wont apologize for it happening and i think that Bama backing up its play on the field shows they are worth the supposed bias they may be getting in jumping a USC after laying the wood to a Michigan team many felt would have been better last year(much the same as USC was thought to have been)

In the end you have two things to go on, the schedules when its all said and done at the end of each season and what has taken place previously to warrant a team being chosen over another. I think Bama has backed up their claims to titles in the BCS title games its played and warrants a bit of leeway if the schedules are eerily close.
 

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Jesus, there are a lot of long posts in this thread. This thread is moronic, by the way. If Oregon takes care of business, they will be a tough out for Bama. Please let this game, finally happen.
 

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why are you counting these neutral sites games road games? Atlanta not a road game...dallas not a road game. penn state is only road game they have had since 2003. Hawaii was prior to that I believe. half stadium of your own fans is no way a road game...florida st in Jacksonville nope not a road game either. seems to me Alabama intentionally avoids playing non conference games in another teams stadium

Playing a game away from its home stadium is officially a road game, but is called a neutral site game due to both teams being "on the road". They are played at a neutral site for the Big Money that is payed out by the Sponsor of the game, and is done for recruiting purposes, which both teams can take advantage of. I addressed this in another post to you. Its no surprise that revenue is up 112% due to games like this and the markets that Alabama is getting seen in and recruits from. Stupid is other teams not seeing this and getting in on the action.
 

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Jesus, there are a lot of long posts in this thread. This thread is moronic, by the way. If Oregon takes care of business, they will be a tough out for Bama. Please let this game, finally happen.

Either team that makes it, if Bama makes it against one or the other, will be a tough out. Not like last year for sure. But and i say this with certainty, dont take Bama lightly, they are very strong themselves and will hold their own in a game against either team.
 

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Playing a game away from its home stadium is officially a road game, but is called a neutral site game due to both teams being "on the road". They are played at a neutral site for the Big Money that is payed out by the Sponsor of the game, and is done for recruiting purposes, which both teams can take advantage of. I addressed this in another post to you. Its no surprise that revenue is up 112% due to games like this and the markets that Alabama is getting seen in and recruits from. Stupid is other teams not seeing this and getting in on the action.

maybe so. could be part of it...but another part is not having to take part in a "true" road game in a hostile environment. its not very often Alabama has to even burn a time out because players cant hear audible or line calls. its one thing if its just a few years...but one road game in 10 years that's obvious its intentional.

but probably pointless trying to reason through your blinders. its clear Alabama has an advantage in several aspects from rankings to schedule...I said before season started that after texas a&m they had 5-6 straight weeks of coasting football. this sums up all sec fans to me..guy I work with. south Carolina fan...boasts of sec championships yet his own team hasn't won anything. he also says entire sec should be in top 15 to start season. smh but funny part is all of sec fans on here probably don't think that's all that far fetched.
 
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