Utah Jazz - Brooklyn Nets Game Thread.

[MHSL82]

I'm only on the 3rd quarter. You spoiled the ending!

My post at 9:12 PM PST said I was at halftime.

I didn't look at the timestamp. I had assumed that you stopped at halftime because no one came on. Sorry, man, I hate when people do that. My fault.

Also, my sports SportsHoopla is set to pacific time when not signed in, without me noticing (before I signed on) so even if I had looked, it would have said 9:12, which in MST was an hour ago (if I also didn't notice the time zone difference).

 

[nuraman00]

It's not a swap between the Spurs and Phoenix. The Spurs don't go 4-0 against everyone. Good teams and bad teams will win 1 out of 4 games at least.

So I look at it as the Jazz got their obligatory win against the Spurs, but do it on the road.

 

[nuraman00]

I didn't look at the timestamp. I had assumed that you stopped at halftime because no one came on. Sorry, man, I hate when people do that. My fault.

Also, my sports SportsHoopla is set to pacific time when not signed in, without me noticing (before I signed on) so even if I had looked, it would have said 9:12, which in MST was an hour ago (if I also didn't notice the time zone difference).

Well, I'm used to sports scores getting ruined, so this isn't the first time.


I always have tennis scores ruined for me. If it's not during those 20 minute sports radio updates, then it's some twitter feed on the side of a random webpage that has a tennis tweet.

I wish I could go the whole two weeks during a tennis major tournament without getting one important result ruined.

 

[nuraman00]

Foye to Favors.

 

[nuraman00]

Joe Johnson for 3.

 

[nuraman00]

The 2nd night of a back-to-back is a convenient excuse sometimes when a team loses. Sometimes you lose just because the other team was better, not because it was a back-to-back.

I've also seen some teams struggle with the 1st night, but do well on the 2nd.

For example, the Clippers were 1-13 at one point on the 1st night of back-to-backs, but +.500 on the 2nd night, in 2005-2006.

There's not much that separates the Magic from the Jazz, so it would be a tough game regardless.

 

[nuraman00]

Favors had a reverse dunk, and I like reverse moves. But I want to see more progress on a post game.

 

[nuraman00]

Johnson attempts a post-up on Hawyward. I like the move, and I like the defense. Johnson missed.

 

[nuraman00]

Mo with a pull-up 3. It's good.

82-80. Somehow I don't think that would have happened under Sloan.

 

[nuraman00]

Also, my sports SportsHoopla is set to pacific time when not signed in, without me noticing (before I signed on) so even if I had looked, it would have said 9:12, which in MST was an hour ago (if I also didn't notice the time zone difference).

When I'm not signed in, I think I see MST or CST, not sure why.

 

[nuraman00]

The Nets transition defense on that play was awful. I know the Jazz are pretty good on fast breaks, but you have to stop that, especially when the other team has been going on a prolonged run.

 

[nuraman00]

The Jazz look like a very different team in this 4th quarter, compared to the first three.

 

[nuraman00]

Up until the last 10 seconds, I felt this game was missing something. It was just ok.

The last play made it more memorable.

 

[nuraman00]

You can't wear a Jazz Deron Williams jersey when they're playing the Nets. Can you?

If they're playing the Nets, I think you have to make a more assertive statement that you're more about the Jazz than a player.

I think.

I'm sure this situation has come up before, I wonder what I thought about it then.

I think in this case, it's because Deron wasn't with the Jazz for long enough to really establish a legacy. Little playoffs success.

I don't know. Something about that image of the fan rubbed me the wrong way.

If I had seen a Mavs fan wearing a Nash jersey, I would like it.

If I saw a Cardinals fan wear a Pujols jersey at an Angels game, I would have been fine.

 

[MHSL82]

Mo with a pull-up 3. It's good.

82-80. Somehow I don't think that would have happened under Sloan.

This was reminiscent of that game winner I talked about earlier where he was supposed to call the timeout. Stockton did that a bit but it definitely wasn't often and he had the green light. Williams? Not unless your first name was Deron.

 

[MHSL82]

It's not a swap between the Spurs and Phoenix. The Spurs don't go 4-0 against everyone. Good teams and bad teams will win 1 out of 4 games at least.

So I look at it as the Jazz got their obligatory win against the Spurs, but do it on the road.

I understand, but I look at the season short-term after short-term. Obviously teams gameplan and matchups are static, but it's not like baseball where they play a series of games until the playoffs. When I said trade, I guess I didn't really mean trade, I meant their current record is the same as predicted, as I would have predicted a loss to the Spurs (1-3 in the series for me) and a win against Phoenix (3-1 in the series). For some reason, I felt the first would be a loss.

OT: I read somewhere that we were playing the Lakers or some western conference team three times this year, but I thought it was 4 against conference and 2 against the Eastern Conference. If they were to contract the number of games (never going to happen), they could play twice against the Eastern Conference, four times against divisional teams, and three times against non-divisional western teams for a total of 76 games - not much difference but 6 games is like one playoff series. Or they could play the other conference once only and four times against the same conference - though that'd be an odd number - 71 games. They could do four against division, three against non-division western, and once against each team in the Eastern Conference - trading home and home each year for a total of 61 games. Not a fan of odd number games, but what would we do without adding more teams or realignment? (Realignment couldn't work for numbers in each conference because that's have to be even, right? Unless they were to add one team - but I think they come in pairs?)

 

[MHSL82]

The 2nd night of a back-to-back is a convenient excuse sometimes when a team loses. Sometimes you lose just because the other team was better, not because it was a back-to-back.

I've also seen some teams struggle with the 1st night, but do well on the 2nd.

For example, the Clippers were 1-13 at one point on the 1st night of back-to-backs, but +.500 on the 2nd night, in 2005-2006.

There's not much that separates the Magic from the Jazz, so it would be a tough game regardless.

FWIW, I think it's more of a sports fan or radio host excuse, not a player or team excuse. It's a factor because some coaches don't practice between back to back games, some teams get tired, and while some teams will be losses regardless, the likelihood of borderline games being losses go up if you're on a back to back and the other is not.

In other words, if the Jazz play Memphis after a triple overtime game the night before, they'd likely lose - but they were already the underdog. But if they played Washington the next night, it would harder than with a night off. I know I went to extremes, but I probably should have said Minnesota or Indiana, where they'd be a toss up on any night, but back-to-back breaks the tie. It'd be hard to get data on this stuff, because whether a team qualifies as a toss-up is a subjective matter and being on the road or at home matters. The Jazz are inconsistent enough that it's hard to predict regardless. Just saying it's a factor. Maybe the Memphis loss would be bigger after a back-to-back than if after one night's rest? You cited LA to show that's not an air-tight theory, but that's an anomaly, right? Did you look at whether the Clippers opponents were on back to backs or not? To go with your theory, back-to-back isn't as big of a factor as being on the road. Sleeping in your own bed and playing in front of your own fans may neutralize the back-to-back factor. (Since the other team has to adjust to being on the road.)

 

[MHSL82]

Up until the last 10 seconds, I felt this game was missing something. It was just ok.

The last play made it more memorable.

I'm sure both teams agree - the shooter who missed will remember he missed and the Jazz will think about how they tried to give it away. Memorable doesn't mean fondly.

 

[MHSL82]

You can't wear a Jazz Deron Williams jersey when they're playing the Nets. Can you?

If they're playing the Nets, I think you have to make a more assertive statement that you're more about the Jazz than a player.

I think.

I'm sure this situation has come up before, I wonder what I thought about it then.

I think in this case, it's because Deron wasn't with the Jazz for long enough to really establish a legacy. Little playoffs success.

I don't know. Something about that image of the fan rubbed me the wrong way.

If I had seen a Mavs fan wearing a Nash jersey, I would like it.

If I saw a Cardinals fan wear a Pujols jersey at an Angels game, I would have been fine.

Despite being a Niners fan, if I went to a game with Alex's new team, whoever that may be, I may wear my Niners Smith jersey (because buying another for the other team would feel wrong and be expensive). I was a Niners fan before I even heard about Smith - I thought the universe aligned - and it did for awhile. Even when he wasn't doing well, there wasn't another QB I wanted to watch (assuming that we couldn't get the best and would lose with others, too).

 

[MHSL82]