Jonathan Taylor requests trade

[PDay8810]

You can plug and play at the RB position and still win.

For the record: NO

 

[PDay8810]

Look at any team cap situation and you'll see cutting almost any player involves eating dead money because of signing bonuses and such which is pay in advance for years on the contract.

The NFL remains all about the guaranteed money, all else if fluff. Players know this, fans, not so much

 

[DJ]

For the record: NO

For the record: Yes.

Look at Bucs with Brady and the Chiefs with Mahomes....that is just 2 teams in the past few years.

 

[Mebert]

For the record: Yes.

Look at Bucs with Brady and the Chiefs with Mahomes....that is just 2 teams in the past few years.

Wait, the 2 greatest QBs of our generation need less help than most?

 

[DJ]

Wait, the 2 greatest QBs of our generation need less help than most?

It just shows it's a passing League....

 

[DJ]

How many SB's have Henry, Cook, Jacobs, Barkley and Chubb won?

5 of the best RB's in the League....

 

[Mebert]

It just shows it's a passing League....

No it does not, it shows that if you take the greatest QB of all time, and the one QB that has a chance to pass him, then rules change.

 

[PDay8810]

For the record: Yes.

Look at Bucs with Brady and the Chiefs with Mahomes....that is just 2 teams in the past few years.

Right..mahomes and Brady

You should ask their opinion

 

[Mebert]

Right..mahomes and Brady

You should ask their opinion

You have to remember, WR also do not matter, because Chiefs traded away their one elite WR and still won the SuperBowl!

 

[PDay8810]

How many SB's have Henry, Cook, Jacobs, Barkley and Chubb won?

5 of the best RB's in the League....

Weak sause.

 

[Mebert]

Point Guards don't matter because Jokic is on the Nuggets!

 

[DJ]

Point Guards don't matter because Jokic is on the Nuggets!

Never said that.

 

[PDay8810]

Kickers have more pressure.

 

[Mebert]

Never said that.

It is exactly the case you made against Running backs. Just changes sports.

 

[eaglesnut]

Trading him now means relying on cast-offs and/or late draft picks this season when they are trying to introduce a raw rookie QB. What are they going to get in return?

They very well might have been interested in extending him, but then he asks for $18M per. A 400% raise is probably not what they were looking to pay. Certainly seems like they were discussing extension until $18M was introduced.

"400% raise" is a mentally ill way to portray it.

Kamara got 15 per. McCaffrey got 16.

 

[Shane_O_Mac812]

"400% raise" is a mentally ill way to portray it.

Kamara got 15 per. McCaffrey got 16.

JT is not the receiving threat they are either, he had one outstanding year and a really good year, followed by a year of injuries, he isn't worth the same as those two. I personally would sign him to 4 yrs, about 12 mill per.

 

[shopson67]

No it does not, it shows that if you take the greatest QB of all time, and the one QB that has a chance to pass him, then rules change.

How about Matthew Stafford? Rams leading rusher in the Super Bowl had 21 yards, a 3rd rounder coming back early from injury.

If you're going to invalidate any of Brady's or Mahomes' teams, then championship discussions get really thin.

 

[eaglesnut]

18 is Kirk's deal. Looks about right all things considered.

Player......... Total Value....... Avg./Year
Tyreek Hill$120,000,000$30,000,000
Davante Adams$140,000,000$28,000,000
Cooper Kupp$80,100,000$26,700,000
A.J. Brown$100,000,000$25,000,000
Stefon Diggs$96,000,000$24,000,000
D.K. Metcalf$72,000,000$24,000,000
Deebo Samuel$71,550,000$23,850,000
Terry McLaurin$69,600,000$23,200,000
D.J. Moore$61,884,000$20,628,000
Keenan Allen$80,100,000$20,025,000
Mike Williams$60,000,000$20,000,000
Amari Cooper$100,000,000$20,000,000
Chris Godwin$60,000,000$20,000,000
Diontae Johnson$36,710,000$18,355,000
Christian Kirk$72,000,000$18,000,000
Tyler Lockett$69,200,000$17,300,000
Mike Evans$82,500,000$16,500,000
Hunter Renfrow$31,700,000$15,850,000
Odell Beckham Jr.$15,000,000$15,000,000
Courtland Sutton$60,000,000$15,000,000
DeAndre Hopkins$26,000,000$13,000,000
Corey Davis$37,500,000$12,500,000
Curtis Samuel$34,500,000$11,500,000
Michael Gallup$57,500,000$11,500,000
Allen Lazard$44,000,000$11,000,000
Jakobi Meyers$33,000,000$11,000,000
Tyler Boyd$43,000,000$10,750,000
Marquez Valdes-Scantling$30,000,000$10,000,000
Brandin Cooks$20,000,000$10,000,000
Michael Thomas$10,000,000$10,000,000
Tim Patrick$30,000,000$10,000,000
Russell Gage$17,000,000$8,500,000
JuJu Smith-Schuster$25,500,000$8,500,000
Adam Thielen$25,000,000$8,333,333
Zay Jones$24,000,000$8,000,000
Ja'Marr Chase$30,819,642$7,704,911
Robert Woods$15,250,000$7,625,000
Allen Robinson$15,000,000$7,500,000
Cedrick Wilson Jr.$22,050,000$7,350,000
Jaylen Waddle$27,085,996$6,771,499
Darius Slayton$12,000,000$6,000,000
DeVante Parker$10,800,000$5,400,000
Drake London$21,534,472$5,383,618
Garrett Wilson$20,554,006$5,138,502
DeVonta Smith$20,141,392$5,035,348

 

[eaglesnut]

JT is not the receiving threat they are either, he had one outstanding year and a really good year, followed by a year of injuries, he isn't worth the same as those two. I personally would sign him to 4 yrs, about 12 mill per.

Henry got 12.5 three years ago before contracts spiked.

 

[shopson67]

"400% raise" is a mentally ill way to portray it.

Kamara got 15 per. McCaffrey got 16.

You just named two running backs that get receptions like starting WRs. Not exactly apples to oranges.

McCaffrey's extension was 3 years ago and has since been restructured. His top cap hit is $14M in any given season in that deal.

Kamara's extension was also 3 years ago. His restructure pushed the majority of his salary to the final 2 seasons which I doubt he ever sees (at least not that final season with a $29M cap hit). If they do keep him, it will be with another massive restructure.

Details.