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Most of you losers have no clue what I'm talking about, if your fb team sucks, that's the end of it for you, some of you can hope for cbb glory, but many of you have to suck it up for another off season.

So few of us have multiple seasons to win something. Michigan might make the cfp, and they are ranked #3 in college hockey, too. They just got their arses crushed in cbb by ASU, but they could still do the 2 sport thing. OSU doesn't suck at hockey, so they could as well, and their VB team is doing really well, too. UMn dominates college hockey both genders, and is top 10 in vb, so their cbb teams can suck and the football team can go just 9-3 and be pretty happy. But we gotta beat the Iowa Hawkeyes, first. If we don't, well, then should have.
 

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Most of you losers have no clue what I'm talking about, if your fb team sucks, that's the end of it for you, some of you can hope for cbb glory, but many of you have to suck it up for another off season.

So few of us have multiple seasons to win something. Michigan might make the cfp, and they are ranked #3 in college hockey, too. They just got their arses crushed in cbb by ASU, but they could still do the 2 sport thing. OSU doesn't suck at hockey, so they could as well, and their VB team is doing really well, too. UMn dominates college hockey both genders, and is top 10 in vb, so their cbb teams can suck and the football team can go just 9-3 and be pretty happy. But we gotta beat the Iowa Hawkeyes, first. If we don't, well, then should have.

Ohio state does just fine in hoops to stay relevant. I don't much care about any other sport. I watched the wrestling when they won it all. About it. I'd much rather watch professional sports than women's lacrosse or men's tennis
 

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Most of you losers have no clue what I'm talking about, if your fb team sucks, that's the end of it for you, some of you can hope for cbb glory, but many of you have to suck it up for another off season.

So few of us have multiple seasons to win something. Michigan might make the cfp, and they are ranked #3 in college hockey, too. They just got their arses crushed in cbb by ASU, but they could still do the 2 sport thing. OSU doesn't suck at hockey, so they could as well, and their VB team is doing really well, too. UMn dominates college hockey both genders, and is top 10 in vb, so their cbb teams can suck and the football team can go just 9-3 and be pretty happy. But we gotta beat the Iowa Hawkeyes, first. If we don't, well, then should have.

"most of you losers have no clue what I'm talking about, if your fb sucks, that's the end of you"

Come on man, what a bizarre thing for you to say.

When's the last time Minnesota was good in football? Answer- 1960, '61 & '62. Since '62 the Gophers have only finished ranked in the top 25 at the end of the season three times- 2019 (# 10), 2003 (# 20) & 1999 (# 18). And between '62 and this season the Gophers have only won double digits games in a season twice- '19 & '03.

You really need to stop talking so much trash about other football teams when your team has done next to nothing for decades.
 

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There isn't a single other person, besides FredsHomerFriend, that thinks about Minnesota when thinking about college football. Let alone ruling the world of college football. End of discussion.
 

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Most of you losers have no clue what I'm talking about, if your fb team sucks, that's the end of it for you, some of you can hope for cbb glory, but many of you have to suck it up for another off season.

So few of us have multiple seasons to win something. Michigan might make the cfp, and they are ranked #3 in college hockey, too. They just got their arses crushed in cbb by ASU, but they could still do the 2 sport thing. OSU doesn't suck at hockey, so they could as well, and their VB team is doing really well, too. UMn dominates college hockey both genders, and is top 10 in vb, so their cbb teams can suck and the football team can go just 9-3 and be pretty happy. But we gotta beat the Iowa Hawkeyes, first. If we don't, well, then should have.
Losers? In the past 16 seasons, my team (UF) has won a National Championships in Baseball, two National Championships in basketball, and two National Championships in Football (not to mention a Heisman Trophy). What has Minnesota done over that span?
 

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Losers? In the past 16 seasons, my team (UF) has won a National Championships in Baseball, two National Championships in basketball, and two National Championships in Football (not to mention a Heisman Trophy). What has Minnesota done over that span?

Stop making sense!!!! Freddy is allergic to facts.

And before he even has a chance to say it yep your Gators beat my Buckeyes. Knowing him he'd try to mention that. But I have never pimped up my team. I don't do homeristic stuff like that.

His homerism is nonstop. It's really odd.
 

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Stop making sense!!!! Freddy is allergic to facts.

And before he even has a chance to say it yep your Gators beat my Buckeyes. Knowing him he'd try to mention that. But I have never pimped up my team. I don't do homeristic stuff like that.

His homerism is nonstop. It's really odd.
I know, it is bizarre that he can rattle off facts about Minnesota's underwater basket weaving team or tiddly wink champions. Of course one can only imagine how TOTALLY UNBEARABLE he will be if Minnesota actually wins a hampionship in something significant! If the unthinkable were to actually happen I would be forced to BAN myself from this site for ever. I admit that couldn't take it!!
 

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I know, it is bizarre that he can rattle off facts about Minnesota's underwater basket weaving team or tiddly wink champions. Of course one can only imagine how TOTALLY UNBEARABLE he will be if Minnesota actually wins a hampionship in something significant! If the unthinkable were to actually happen I would be forced to BAN myself from this site for ever. I admit that couldn't take it!!

I thought the Gators were the best tiddly winks in the country but I could be wrong
 

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I know, it is bizarre that he can rattle off facts about Minnesota's underwater basket weaving team or tiddly wink champions. Of course one can only imagine how TOTALLY UNBEARABLE he will be if Minnesota actually wins a hampionship in something significant! If the unthinkable were to actually happen I would be forced to BAN myself from this site for ever. I admit that couldn't take it!!

If Minnesota would win a national title in a sport that mattered he'd be the most intolerable person ever on this site.
 

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Losers? In the past 16 seasons, my team (UF) has won a National Championships in Baseball, two National Championships in basketball, and two National Championships in Football (not to mention a Heisman Trophy). What has Minnesota done over that span?
Florida would be "one of the few" that I was speaking of. It's the one SEC team I would invite to join the B1G if I had a say.





But since you asked,

since 1997, UMn has sent AT LEAST 44 teams to Final Fours/Frozen Fours/Top 4 finishes in 6 different sports, Ms & Ws Hk, Wr, Ms Glf, VB & WsBB.

That includes 13 Natl Titles in 4 different sports & 11 Runner Up finishes in 5 different sports.




UMn is arguably the #1 Men's college hockey program of all-time, but their being the #1 team of the last 50 yrs isn't even arguable.


UMn has DOMINATED the sport of Women's College Hockey, winning more titles, making more Title game appearances, making more Frozen Four Appearances and making more NCAA tournament appearances than any other program in the nation, EVER.


UMn wrestling was the #1 Wrestling program in the nation from 1998 to 2007 with 7 Top 2 finishes to Iowa's 5 and Okie St's 4. And...

UMn is Heavyweight U., at least of the 21st Century. It's had 4 wrestlers win 7 Natl Titles at the HWT position since 2000. No other school comes close to matching that. 13 Top 3 finishes at HWT since 1998 and 23 HWT All-Americans(Top 8) since 1993. They've also won 4 Titles with 10 Top 3 finishes at the 190 lb weight class as well.


UMn had 1 Natl Title, a 3rd, a 7th, a 9th, an 11th, a 12th, a 19th & a 20th place finish in the NCAA Men's Golf Championships from 1998-2007 along with 18 All-Americans and an Individual Natl Champion.


UMn's VB program has been to 6 Final Fours & 9 Elite 8s since 2003, and 17 Sweet 16s since 1999, twice beating Florida to get to the Elite 8, btw, lol.


UMn's Ws BB program got to 1 final four, produced a #1 WNBA pick and 3 Top 4 picks, one of those being the first EVER Soph to leave school after just 2 years, with another one of those now being in the Naismith HOF in part for being the winningest WNBA player in history at the time of her retirement. She's recently pulled in the best ranked recruiting class in Gopher Women's BB history and should have the program back in the Final Four soon.




Outside of those 6 sports,

UMn's Baseball Coach, a former Gopher, is closing in on the Top Ten in All-Time winningest college baseball coaches list.
The program has gotten to 32 NCAA tournaments

UMn is either Top Ten or close to being Top Ten at producing MLB players, including producing at least one draftee every year since 1988, 35 consecutive drafts, with the next longest streak among B1G programs being 11 drafts.
2020 saw UMn produce the #3 overall pick in the MLB draft. Last #3 pick for UMn was Paul Molitor.



UMn's bb program has understandably struggled since Clemgate. Minnesota folk don't like cheating, while other areas of the country Clem may have gotten away with what he was doing, UNC has figured out a way to get away with similar crap, UCLA got away with a ton back in the day. Not arguing UMn shouldn't have gotten punished, just wish the NCAA didn't play favorites and let some get away it sh1t while making an example out of UMn for example. It is what it is, I'm fine with it and have moved on basically.

Fitting that a former Gopher may be the one to finally lead the program back to respectability.

Even despite it's troubles, it's STILL produced the 12th most NBA players in history and SIX Naismith Hall of Famers.



UMn's football program has understandably struggled since the Administration gave up on the program. They were going to close down the football program but the Natl Title in 1960 convinced them to allow it to continue existing at least, but they chose only to fund the program minimally until a new Univ President took over in the mid-late 90s and brought in Glen Mason and the attitude towards funding the football program finally changed, and it's been an uphill battle since then and the program may never get back to where it was in the Bierman Era or even to where it was in the early 60s, and I've never claimed otherwise, only that all the things a program needs to do to become successful, are things UMn has done since the hiring of Glen Mason, including the building of a new outdoor stadium, building a new state of art practice facility, bringing in a high profile coach, and paying that coach AND his assistants a competitive wage.

The result? The possibility of a 3rd non-covid 9+ win season in a row as well as a 6th Bowl game win in a row possibly? And ranking #13 in the nation at sending players into the NFL with 11 since 2019(the 2020-2022 drafts), all while the team's academics gets better almost every season & the fans can feel confident that won't be any scandals while Fleck is running the show.

UMn's had one of the top defenses in the nation since 2019, DC Rossi's first full season. #3 in total defense in 2021.
UMn fb is the ONLY team in the country with 2 shut outs of FBS teams this season.

Two shutouts, another game with only 3 pts allowed, two more with only a td, both scored in garbage time, allowed.

The combination of Fleck as Head Coach with both Rossi as DC and Kirk C as OC on staff, Tanner Morgan at QB and either Smith or Ibrahim as the starting RB and CAB in the lineup is

3-1 in 2018.
11-2 in 2019.
4-0 in 2022.

that's 18-3.

Means the program still needs to improve it's recruiting and build up more and higher quality depth before it can compete with the likes of OSU/Mich/PSU on a regular basis. I've never said otherwise.






UMn has DOMINATED the sport of Collegiate Dance, winning 19 Natl Titles in just the 21st Century. No other school comes close to matching that.

UMn has become Dive U as well, as it's had 3 Divers win 9 Natl Titles in 1 and 3 meter Diving at the NCAA tournament since 2010 and a current Gopher just won her 4th straight B1G Diver of the Week Award already this season, having won all 3 Diving Events each weekend so far this season, so she'll probably add to that Natl Title total come NCAA tourney time.

Altogether the Gophers have won 14 Dive Natl Titles in all 3 Dive Events since 1972. Not the all-time best Diving team, but since 2010 they have been.



The Women's CC team AND the Women's Gymnastics team had their best finishes ever, the CC team finishing 5th and 7th the last 2 seasons and the Gym team coming in 6th last winter.

The Women's Gymnastics team has had 5 Top Ten finishes at the NCAA tourney since 1997.

21 of the last 26 years the CC team has qualified for the NCAA tourney, finishing Top 10 four times, and Top 20 eleven times.

The Men's Swim & Dive team has 33 straight Top 30 NCAA tourney finishes since 1989 including 17 Top 12 finishes, and 10 straight Top 11 finishes from 2000-2009 and...

the Women's Swim & Dive team has Top 30 finishes in 32 of the last 37 seasons, including 11 Top 12 finishes.



UMn's an ALL-TIME Top 25 team in the Sears Director's Cup rankings.
 

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If Minnesota would win a national title in a sport that mattered he'd be the most intolerable person ever on this site.
Actually, I'd probably tone it down if they won a cfb or cbb title. But not until AFTER they won, lol.


And Hockey DOES matter.
 

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There isn't a single other person, besides FredsHomerFriend, that thinks about Minnesota when thinking about college football. Let alone ruling the world of college football. End of discussion.
Gopher fans think about Minnesota alot. As do Badger and Hawkeye fans, Illini & Purdue fans as well.

Penn St fans thought a great deal about Minnesota, as did much of the cfb world in 2019 when UMn beat #5 ranked PSU, at least for a solid week of that season. PSU fans for the rest of their lives as a win that day would have had PSU ranked Top 4 at 9-0 going into the game with #2 OSU two weeks later. The loss to OSU may not have dropped PSU out of the Top 4? So that loss could have cost them a trip to the cfp?
 

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If Minnesota would win a national title in a sport that mattered he'd be the most intolerable person ever on this site.
If UMn wins a non-hockey major league sport college Natl Title, it would be in basketball most likely. Can't see it happening in Baseball with how the sport has been changed to so favor southern programs, unless the next Dave Winfield/Paul Molitor like pair end up on the same team instead of a couple seasons apart, which I don't see happening.

I doubt I'll ever see UMn win a Natl Title in cfb. Fleck either won't be able to improve his recruiting enough to overcome the talent difference between UMn and the likes of OSU/Mich, or his lack of expert coaching prowess will find them losing a semi or title game to a team with a better coach.


Hockey? UMn could win a couple more men's titles with the first of those titles possibly coming this season?

The Women are ranked #1 right now and have a senior laden team, so they should win their 8th title this year, but OSU won't lay down and give it to them, and #3 Wisconsin? Well, UMn and UW play tomorrow and Sunday so we'll know more soon enough. My guess is UW will also prove very capable of winning another Title. The biggest surprise would be a non-WCHA team winning one.
 

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If Minnesota would win a national title in a sport that mattered he'd be the most intolerable person ever on this site.
And the Gopher women's bb team would win a Title before the men's team. 2024-25 & 2025-26 will be great years for the women's bb team if injuries don't derail the team as the current team has a couple good sophs, and has a loaded frosh class with a decent class coming in next year. Not predicting a Title, but an Elite 8/Final Four kind of run I could see. They play UConn next season in the ooc. That could be an interesting game? And since the WNBA doesn't steal a lot of players out of Ws Cbb early, UMn could end up good for a very long time, if Whalen can prove herself as more than just a good recruiter, and hence why they'd win a title before the Men's team, imo.


The Men's team also has a couple of decent sophs, 2 Jrs both out for the entire season with injuries, so both should come back next year with 2 years left of eligibility, a decent frosh class and a Top 30 incoming recruit so far, so in the same 2 year period, 2024-25 & maybe 2025-26, they could be a formidable team, not sure that they could rise up to Title contender status, but an Elite 8, maybe sneak into the Final Four one of those 2 seasons would be plenty, as it would convince plenty of top players that Coach Johnson can win a title, and with the quality of players that come out of the state of Minnesota, that could end up being significant. Heck, it only took Haskins a Sweet 16 and an Elite 8 trip to get him the players needed to get to the Final Four. Took Gonzaga's coach a long long time to get to where they are now, but it seems some people think it can/should happen instantly? lol Retarded. Has any coach EVER had that quick of an impact on a program? Next year they could be a Sweet 16 type team, maybe, if they stay healthy & depending on how this year's frosh class develops. Could be a nice 3-4 year run before the NBA starts playing a role.



The Gopher VB team has won a set vs #1 ranked Texas and 4 of 7 sets vs #3 ranked Wisconsin, a set vs #8 Stanford and 9 of 12 sets vs #10 Florida, #12 Oregon & #15 Baylor, so they seem bound to make it at least to the Elite 8, I'd say 80% of getting that far, then they might end up seeing #1 Texas in the 4th round, so if they play like they did when they beat #3 Wisconsin 3-0, they could upset Texas, I'd say about 20% chance of beating #1 UT, and then they'd likely run into either Wisc or Neb in the Semis and I'd give them a 30% chance of beating either of those teams. With their coach retiring after this season, this could be the team's last chance to win them a Title? I mean, they may take this coaching change seriously and actually try to bring in someone comparable or maybe even better than the current coach, but I also could see them trying to tap the less expensive but riskier young and up and coming candidates, maybe even a former Gopher, in hopes that they get lucky and they turn out to be great while getting them for cheap the first couple of years?



The Wrestling team, if Steveson had come back this year, as I think he had another year of eligibility left, might have had a shot at winning a 4th title, but he didn't, so they won't.
 

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#2 ranked UMn men's hockey just swept #3 ranked Michigan, 5-2 last night, and 6-3 tonight.

That's FIVE wins over Top Ten ranked teams so far this season, Top 10 at the time of the games. OSU and North Dakota have since dropped to #12 and #19. 4 wins over teams that will probably still be Top Ten come next week, unless OSU moves back into the Top Ten?

2-0 vs #3 Michigan. Mich might not drop too far since most voters will probably know they were missing several players this weekend.
1-1 vs #6 Penn St.
1-1 vs #8 Mankato
1-1 vs #12 OSU
1-1 vs #19 UND
2-0 vs #20 NDm

10-4 overall. only 2 of their 14 games vs an unranked team.

Only 4 games left on the entire schedule vs an unranked team as both Ariz St and SCSU, UMn's remaining ooc opponents are ranked Top 25, SCSU #4 and ASU #22.
 

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49-7 vs Colorado.
34-7 vs Mich St.
31-0 vs Rutgers.
31-3 vs NW.

Not even #2 ranked OSU can match that. Close, but no. 119-36 vs 96-10. OSU scored more overall vs those 3 teams, but they allowed 3.5 times more points to be scored on them. 83 point scoring margin for #2 ranked OSU compared to an 86 point scoring margin for UR Minnesota.

86 > 83.


#4 TCU beat Colorado 38-13.

49-7 > 38-13.

#3 Michigan beat MSU 29-7.

34-7 > 29-7.

#2 Ohio St beat NW 21-7.

31-3 > 21-7.


That's 3 of the Top 4 teams in the country that can't match what UMn did vs those 3 teams.


#7 USC beat Colorado 55-17.

49-7 > 55-17. Not by much, but it is.

#11 PSU beat NW 17-7.

31-3 > 17-7. Huge difference. Maybe if the Refs didn't want PSU to win the game vs UMn? PSU came close to losing to Purdue as well.

#12 Oregon beat Colorado 49-10.

49-7 > 49-10. Not by much, but it is.

#16 UCLA beat Colorado 45-17.

49-7 > 45-17.

#17 Washington beat MSU 39-28.

34-7 > 39-28. Huge difference. That 11 pt HOME win boosted UDub into the rankings and even a loss to 3-7 Ariz St hasn't knocked them out???

#23 Oregon St beat Colorado 42-9.

49-7 > 42-9. Not by much, but it is.

#1 FCS SDSU beat WIU 34-10.

62-10 > 34-10.

#4 FCS NDSU beat WIU 56-17.

62-10 > 56-17.




Mizzou and Liberty play NMSU, 3-0 in their last 3 games in the next 2 games, we'll see how UMn's 38-0 win over NMSU compares.



UMn compares favorably in common opponent comparisons with teams ranked #2, #3, #4, #7, #11, #12, #16, #17, #23 in FBS & #1 and #4 in the FCS.


Hoping I can add a big win over Iowa to this list of comparisons tomorrow, it's a possibility. More nervous about this game than any other we've played this year. Iowa's had UMn's number for awhile now and just not sure how UMn's not so stellar offense will perform vs Iowa's stellar defense? Iowa's offense may suck, but their defense could score some points and could be the difference if UMn can't get their offense working? But with Mo in the game, I think UMn has the advantage.
 

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Actually, I'd probably tone it down if they won a cfb or cbb title. But not until AFTER they won, lol.


And Hockey DOES matter.
UND hockey has been better. 8 titles. How many for the gophers?
 

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I thought the Gators were the best tiddly winks in the country but I could be wrong
Right! And just like Fred to try and horn in on our glory!
 

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Florida would be "one of the few" that I was speaking of. It's the one SEC team I would invite to join the B1G if I had a say.





But since you asked,

since 1997, UMn has sent AT LEAST 44 teams to Final Fours/Frozen Fours/Top 4 finishes in 6 different sports, Ms & Ws Hk, Wr, Ms Glf, VB & WsBB.

That includes 13 Natl Titles in 4 different sports & 11 Runner Up finishes in 5 different sports.




UMn is arguably the #1 Men's college hockey program of all-time, but their being the #1 team of the last 50 yrs isn't even arguable.


UMn has DOMINATED the sport of Women's College Hockey, winning more titles, making more Title game appearances, making more Frozen Four Appearances and making more NCAA tournament appearances than any other program in the nation, EVER.


UMn wrestling was the #1 Wrestling program in the nation from 1998 to 2007 with 7 Top 2 finishes to Iowa's 5 and Okie St's 4. And...

UMn is Heavyweight U., at least of the 21st Century. It's had 4 wrestlers win 7 Natl Titles at the HWT position since 2000. No other school comes close to matching that. 13 Top 3 finishes at HWT since 1998 and 23 HWT All-Americans(Top 8) since 1993. They've also won 4 Titles with 10 Top 3 finishes at the 190 lb weight class as well.


UMn had 1 Natl Title, a 3rd, a 7th, a 9th, an 11th, a 12th, a 19th & a 20th place finish in the NCAA Men's Golf Championships from 1998-2007 along with 18 All-Americans and an Individual Natl Champion.


UMn's VB program has been to 6 Final Fours & 9 Elite 8s since 2003, and 17 Sweet 16s since 1999, twice beating Florida to get to the Elite 8, btw, lol.


UMn's Ws BB program got to 1 final four, produced a #1 WNBA pick and 3 Top 4 picks, one of those being the first EVER Soph to leave school after just 2 years, with another one of those now being in the Naismith HOF in part for being the winningest WNBA player in history at the time of her retirement. She's recently pulled in the best ranked recruiting class in Gopher Women's BB history and should have the program back in the Final Four soon.




Outside of those 6 sports,

UMn's Baseball Coach, a former Gopher, is closing in on the Top Ten in All-Time winningest college baseball coaches list.
The program has gotten to 32 NCAA tournaments

UMn is either Top Ten or close to being Top Ten at producing MLB players, including producing at least one draftee every year since 1988, 35 consecutive drafts, with the next longest streak among B1G programs being 11 drafts.
2020 saw UMn produce the #3 overall pick in the MLB draft. Last #3 pick for UMn was Paul Molitor.



UMn's bb program has understandably struggled since Clemgate. Minnesota folk don't like cheating, while other areas of the country Clem may have gotten away with what he was doing, UNC has figured out a way to get away with similar crap, UCLA got away with a ton back in the day. Not arguing UMn shouldn't have gotten punished, just wish the NCAA didn't play favorites and let some get away it sh1t while making an example out of UMn for example. It is what it is, I'm fine with it and have moved on basically.

Fitting that a former Gopher may be the one to finally lead the program back to respectability.

Even despite it's troubles, it's STILL produced the 12th most NBA players in history and SIX Naismith Hall of Famers.



UMn's football program has understandably struggled since the Administration gave up on the program. They were going to close down the football program but the Natl Title in 1960 convinced them to allow it to continue existing at least, but they chose only to fund the program minimally until a new Univ President took over in the mid-late 90s and brought in Glen Mason and the attitude towards funding the football program finally changed, and it's been an uphill battle since then and the program may never get back to where it was in the Bierman Era or even to where it was in the early 60s, and I've never claimed otherwise, only that all the things a program needs to do to become successful, are things UMn has done since the hiring of Glen Mason, including the building of a new outdoor stadium, building a new state of art practice facility, bringing in a high profile coach, and paying that coach AND his assistants a competitive wage.

The result? The possibility of a 3rd non-covid 9+ win season in a row as well as a 6th Bowl game win in a row possibly? And ranking #13 in the nation at sending players into the NFL with 11 since 2019(the 2020-2022 drafts), all while the team's academics gets better almost every season & the fans can feel confident that won't be any scandals while Fleck is running the show.

UMn's had one of the top defenses in the nation since 2019, DC Rossi's first full season. #3 in total defense in 2021.
UMn fb is the ONLY team in the country with 2 shut outs of FBS teams this season.

Two shutouts, another game with only 3 pts allowed, two more with only a td, both scored in garbage time, allowed.

The combination of Fleck as Head Coach with both Rossi as DC and Kirk C as OC on staff, Tanner Morgan at QB and either Smith or Ibrahim as the starting RB and CAB in the lineup is

3-1 in 2018.
11-2 in 2019.
4-0 in 2022.

that's 18-3.

Means the program still needs to improve it's recruiting and build up more and higher quality depth before it can compete with the likes of OSU/Mich/PSU on a regular basis. I've never said otherwise.






UMn has DOMINATED the sport of Collegiate Dance, winning 19 Natl Titles in just the 21st Century. No other school comes close to matching that.

UMn has become Dive U as well, as it's had 3 Divers win 9 Natl Titles in 1 and 3 meter Diving at the NCAA tournament since 2010 and a current Gopher just won her 4th straight B1G Diver of the Week Award already this season, having won all 3 Diving Events each weekend so far this season, so she'll probably add to that Natl Title total come NCAA tourney time.

Altogether the Gophers have won 14 Dive Natl Titles in all 3 Dive Events since 1972. Not the all-time best Diving team, but since 2010 they have been.



The Women's CC team AND the Women's Gymnastics team had their best finishes ever, the CC team finishing 5th and 7th the last 2 seasons and the Gym team coming in 6th last winter.

The Women's Gymnastics team has had 5 Top Ten finishes at the NCAA tourney since 1997.

21 of the last 26 years the CC team has qualified for the NCAA tourney, finishing Top 10 four times, and Top 20 eleven times.

The Men's Swim & Dive team has 33 straight Top 30 NCAA tourney finishes since 1989 including 17 Top 12 finishes, and 10 straight Top 11 finishes from 2000-2009 and...

the Women's Swim & Dive team has Top 30 finishes in 32 of the last 37 seasons, including 11 Top 12 finishes.



UMn's an ALL-TIME Top 25 team in the Sears Director's Cup rankings.
Um, I said "Losers? In the past 16 seasons, my team (UF) has won a National Championships in Baseball, two National Championships in basketball, and two National Championships in Football (not to mention a Heisman Trophy). What has Minnesota done over that span?"

That span is 2006-2021 (not 1997 to 2021).
 
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