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Where you think he ends up? Aggie?

I would guess Florida, but who knows. He looked pretty rough in Houston. Things change and it could have been a case of being way out of shape. That or a case of a maxed out kid that hasn’t progressed like most thought he would
 

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I would guess Florida, but who knows. He looked pretty rough in Houston. Things change and it could have been a case of being way out of shape. That or a case of a maxed out kid that hasn’t progressed like most thought he would
That's the sad part.. he was slimmer. By the November he will be ranked behind Sanders, Smith, Turner, and Jackson. Thomas may also pass him up with a solid season after being out with an injury last year.

I think he is a classic "Jimbo. Real. Recruiting. Going head to head with tosu and landing the sought out bluechip DE--Billy Looch" special.
 

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Lol. You just can’t help yourself can you. Yes, you yourself admitted that OSU told him he’d be looked at for DE. The other schools have told him they won’t. Tunmise has said repeatedly he’ll only go to a school where he’ll get an opportunity at DE. That’s it. That’s the statement. Period. End of story.

I personally don’t believe OSU sees him as a DE. I think it’s a case of trying to get him on campus and they’ll play the “well give you a look at DE” and then “We’ll we tried but that didn’t work out so we’re moving you inside”. Thats what my “sold him a bill of goods” was referencing. That’s my opinion and I don’t have any facts to back that up. That part of the discussion is up for debate. The rest of it that I mentioned above is not.

That said, at no point have I or @Thiefery states or implied that the only reason he WOULD choose OSU over an OU or Texas is because of that. Both of those schools could very well have decided to offer him as a DE from the start and he still might choose OSU. I have no idea. But, neither of us are making the argument that he wouldn’t choose OSU if that were the case, which are the words you’re trying to put in our mouths.
Dude I have no idea what OSU has told him privately. I was mocking you and your supposed "info". Nobody knows exactly what has been said other than the OSU coaches and him. However, as I've stated multiple times, you started this off by saying "OSU sold him a bill of goods". By saying that, yes, you are saying that's why he went to OSU. shaneman said you were jumping to conclusions and you responded with "My info is solid." Now you're saying it's actually just your opinion and you have no facts to back it up, so what the hell is it?
 

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Dude I have no idea what OSU has told him privately. I was mocking you and your supposed "info". Nobody knows exactly what has been said other than the OSU coaches and him. However, as I've stated multiple times, you started this off by saying "OSU sold him a bill of goods". By saying that, yes, you are saying that's why he went to OSU. shaneman said you were jumping to conclusions and you responded with "My info is solid." Now you're saying it's actually just your opinion and you have no facts to back it up, so what the hell is it?

Jesus Christ, you either have the reading compression of a 3rd grader or you just refuse to accept you’ve been proven to be trying to make straw man arguments and doubling down. Let me spell it out for your dumb ass one more time.

1) You yourself admitted there are reports coming from the OSU side that he has been told by OSU that he will be looked at both as a DE and DT. That agrees with my “supposed information” as well. That is not my opinion.

2) Tunmise has stated repeatedly he is a DE only and does not want to play DT. Fact. Not opinion.

3) OU and Texas have both told him they will take him as a DT only & Tunmise eliminated them. Fact. Not opinion.

4) My opinion & the only opinion in this entire discussion: I do not believe Ohio state sees him as a DE either. I believe they told him they would look at him there to get him in the boat and then move him to DT after the fact. I have repeatedly stated this is my opinion and never presumed to have inside information on this front. The information I was referring to was facts 1-3 listed above.

All of that said, you’re whole original whiny ass argument was that I was stating the only reason Tunmise would choose OSU over OU or Texas is because OSU was the only one to offer him at DE. An argument I absolutely have never made despite your reaped attempts to suggest I have.

I cannot make things any clearer than that. If you can’t figure it out now, God have mercy on your little soul.
 

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Jesus Christ, you either have the reading compression of a 3rd grader or you just refuse to accept you’ve been proven to be trying to make straw man arguments and doubling down. Let me spell it out for your dumb ass one more time.

1) You yourself admitted there are reports coming from the OSU side that he has been told by OSU that he will be looked at both as a DE and DT. That agrees with my “supposed information” as well. That is not my opinion.

2) Tunmise has stated repeatedly he is a DE only and does not want to play DT. Fact. Not opinion.

3) OU and Texas have both told him they will take him as a DT only & Tunmise eliminated them. Fact. Not opinion.

4) My opinion & the only opinion in this entire discussion: I do not believe Ohio state sees him as a DE either. I believe they told him they would look at him there to get him in the boat and then move him to DT after the fact. I have repeatedly stated this is my opinion and never presumed to have inside information on this front. The information I was referring to was facts 1-3 listed above.

All of that said, you’re whole original whiny ass argument was that I was stating the only reason Tunmise would choose OSU over OU or Texas is because OSU was the only one to offer him at DE. An argument I absolutely have never made despite your reaped attempts to suggest I have.

I cannot make things any clearer than that. If you can’t figure it out now, God have mercy on your little soul.
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1. I just explained to you that I said that mockingly because you said your "info was solid". I then explained that nobody knows exactly what has been said except the OSU coaches and him. How did you miss all of that?

2. That's fine. We still don't know what his conversations have been with OSU, but you went as far as to already say "OSU sold him a bill of goods" when you don't have any idea what OSU has told him.

3. That's fine.

4. You very well might be right, but nobody knows that yet. However, you 100% made the assertion that he is only going to OSU because they offered him as a DE. If that was not your assertion, then you would not have made the "bill of goods" comment. Unless you don't even know what that phrase even means.
 

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1. I just explained to you that I said that mockingly because you said your "info was solid". I then explained that nobody knows exactly what has been said except the OSU coaches and him. How did you miss all of that?

2. That's fine. We still don't know what his conversations have been with OSU, but you went as far as to already say "OSU sold him a bill of goods" when you don't have any idea what OSU has told him.

3. That's fine.

4. You very well might be right, but nobody knows that yet. However, you 100% made the assertion that he is only going to OSU because they offered him as a DE. If that was not your assertion, then you would not have made the "bill of goods" comment. Unless you don't even know what that phrase even means.

God, you’re fucking stupid. Saying he’s going to OSU because they are looking at him as a DE and OU and Texas are not is not the same thing as saying that’s the ONLY reason, you buffoon. I have said repeatedly if OU and Texas offered him as a DE he may we’ll have chosen OSU anyways. You continue to try to put words in my mouth I never said.

Second, it’s not fucking hard to figure out that they’ve told him he’ll be considered for DE when he’s made a point of stating he’s a DE multiple times since committing to OSU. You don’t need to hear it from Ryan Day’s mouth to solve that puzzle.
 

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God, you’re fucking stupid. Saying he’s going to OSU because they are looking at him as a DE and OU and Texas are not is not the same thing as saying that’s the ONLY reason, you buffoon. I have said repeatedly if OU and Texas offered him as a DE he may we’ll have chosen OSU anyways. You continue to try to put words in my mouth I never said.

Second, it’s not fucking hard to figure out that they’ve told him he’ll be considered for DE when he’s made a point of stating he’s a DE multiple times since committing to OSU. You don’t need to hear it from Ryan Day’s mouth to solve that puzzle.
You can name-call all you want. I really don't care. It doesn't change the fact that you were acting like you had all the facts about his commitment to OSU, how he was told what he needed to hear and "sold a bill of goods". You even said your "info was solid". Yet, you later admitted you actually don't have a clue. You should stay with that platform rather than try and put words into the OSU coaches' mouths.
 

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You can name-call all you want. I really don't care. It doesn't change the fact that you were acting like you had all the facts about his commitment to OSU, how he was told what he needed to hear and "sold a bill of goods". You even said your "info was solid". Yet, you later admitted you actually don't have a clue. You should stay with that platform rather than try and put words into the OSU coaches' mouths.

False. My info is solid about him being told he’ll get a look as a DE at OSU. I just used readily available information to back it up is all. You’re just pissy you got called out for your bullshit straw man arguments.
 

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Sooo... Any other announcements today?
 

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False. My info is solid about him being told he’ll get a look as a DE at OSU. I just used readily available information to back it up is all. You’re just pissy you got called out for your bullshit straw man arguments.
I believe they told him they would look at him there to get him in the boat and then move him to DT after the fact. I have repeatedly stated this is my opinion and never presumed to have inside information on this front.
Are you going to let me know which it is? Is it a fact that OSU said that or is it just your opinion? I think the reason you're getting all uppity is because it's actually you who has been called out for constantly flip-flopping. You made your "bill of goods" comment and it's been all downhill for you.

Only one of us has gotten pissy. Only one of us has had to resort to name-calling and agitation. Again, can you just finally say you really have no idea what the OSU coaches have told him and stop embarrassing yourself already?
 

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Are you going to let me know which it is? Is it a fact that OSU said that or is it just your opinion? I think the reason you're getting all uppity is because it's actually you who has been called out for constantly flip-flopping. You made your "bill of goods" comment and it's been all downhill for you.

Only one of us has gotten pissy. Only one of us has had to resort to name-calling and agitation. Again, can you just finally say you really have no idea what the OSU coaches have told him and stop embarrassing yourself already?

Like I said. Your reading comprehension is pathetic. My information is solid that he’s been told he’ll be looked at as a DE at OSU. I BELIEVE that they do not really see him as a DE and are just telling him that to get him in the boat. It’s really not that hard to see those are two different concepts for a person of even below average intelligence. One is based on solid information and one is my personal opinion which I have differentiated this whole time. You have either been incapable of doing so or are being intentionally obtuse.

Either way, I see you’ve backed off your “the only reason he’d choose OSU” straw man bullshit. What are you gonna move onto now that you’re painted into this corner?
 

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Average Recruit Ranking by Conference - 6/20:

ACC:
Clemson - 94.32
North Carolina - 91.64
Notre Dame* - 91.41
Florida State - 88.60
Miami FL - 88.37
NC State - 87.09
Louisville - 86.35
Georgia Tech - 85.68
Virginia - 85.65
Pittsburgh - 85.49
Duke - 85.40
Virginia Tech - 84.94
Boston College - 84.55
Wake Forest - 83.68
Syracuse - 83.63

Big 12:
Texas - 91.65
Oklahoma - 91.05
West Virginia - 87.63
Texas Tech - 87.19
Oklahoma State - 86.49
Baylor - 86.42
TCU - 85.77
Kansas State - 85.68
Kansas - 84.58
Iowa State - 84.43

Big Ten:
Ohio State - 95.30
Michigan - 88.93
Wisconsin - 88.89
Penn State - 88.51
Iowa - 87.99
Nebraska - 87.51
Minnesota - 87.44
Maryland - 87.16
Indiana - 86.48
Northwestern - 86.17
Purdue - 85.50
Michigan State - 85.08
Rutgers - 84.72
Illinois - 84.39

PAC 12:
Oregon - 91.96
USC - 91.30
California - 87.98
Washington - 87.92
Utah - 87.13
Stanford - 87.10
UCLA - 86.32
Arizona State - 85.37
Oregon State - 84.93
Arizona - 84.30
Colorado - 84.02
Washington State - 83.96

SEC:
Alabama - 94.35
Georgia - 94.08
LSU - 93.33
Auburn - 90.57
Texas A&M - 90.30
Tennessee - 89.92
Florida - 89.73
Ole Miss - 87.94
Arkansas - 87.14
Mississippi State - 86.95
Kentucky - 86.85
Missouri - 86.41
South Carolina - 86.12
Vanderbilt - 84.38
 
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Average Recruit Ranking by Conference - 6/20:

ACC:
Clemson - 94.32
North Carolina - 91.64
Notre Dame* - 91.41
Florida State - 88.60
Miami FL - 88.37
NC State - 87.09
Louisville - 86.35
Georgia Tech - 85.68
Virginia - 85.65
Pittsburgh - 85.49
Duke - 85.40
Virginia Tech - 84.94
Boston College - 84.55
Wake Forest - 83.68
Syracuse - 83.63

Big 12:
Texas - 91.65
Oklahoma - 91.05
West Virginia - 87.63
Texas Tech - 87.19
Oklahoma State - 86.49
Baylor - 86.42
TCU - 85.77
Kansas State - 85.68
Kansas - 84.58
Iowa State - 84.43

Big Ten:
Ohio State - 95.30
Michigan - 88.93
Wisconsin - 88.89
Penn State - 88.51
Iowa - 87.99
Nebraska - 87.51
Minnesota - 87.44
Maryland - 87.16
Indiana - 86.48
Northwestern - 86.17
Purdue - 85.50
Michigan State - 85.08
Rutgers - 84.72
Illinois - 84.39

PAC 12:
Oregon - 91.96
USC - 91.30
California - 87.98
Washington - 87.92
Utah - 87.13
Stanford - 87.10
UCLA - 86.32
Arizona State - 85.37
Oregon State - 84.93
Arizona - 84.30
Colorado - 84.02
Washington State - 83.96

SEC:
Alabama - 94.35
Georgia - 94.08
LSU - 93.33
Auburn - 90.57
Texas A&M - 90.30
Tennessee - 89.92
Florida - 89.73
Ole Miss - 87.94
Arkansas - 87.14
Mississippi State - 86.95
Kentucky - 86.85
Missouri - 86.41
South Carolina - 86.12
Vanderbilt - 84.38





The Juco, DT that no coach on OU staff has recognize his commitment, is lower our average. I think he will end up as a preferred walk on, or a grey shirt. But not a scholarship offer.
 

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The Juco, DT that no coach on OU staff has recognize his commitment, is lower our average. I think he will end up as a preferred walk on, or a grey shirt. But not a scholarship offer.

I'm sure that will get cleared up soon. Did he just announce the commitment?
 

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The Juco, DT that no coach on OU staff has recognize his commitment, is lower our average. I think he will end up as a preferred walk on, or a grey shirt. But not a scholarship offer.

No he won’t. He’ll go somewhere else if he isn’t a take
 

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I'm sure that will get cleared up soon. Did he just announce the commitment?



Yes
No googley eyes from LR
No video put out from OU
No coach, has even acknowledge anything publicly.
Not even on Twitter. Nothing
 

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Like I said. Your reading comprehension is pathetic. My information is solid that he’s been told he’ll be looked at as a DE at OSU. I BELIEVE that they do not really see him as a DE and are just telling him that to get him in the boat. It’s really not that hard to see those are two different concepts for a person of even below average intelligence. One is based on solid information and one is my personal opinion which I have differentiated this whole time. You have either been incapable of doing so or are being intentionally obtuse.

Either way, I see you’ve backed off your “the only reason he’d choose OSU” straw man bullshit. What are you gonna move onto now that you’re painted into this corner?
My reading comprehension is top notch. How do you not understand that "This is my opinion, I don't know" is a very different statement from "My info that says the OSU coaches told him he will be a DE is solid"? They're literally saying two completely opposite things. Either your info is solid and it's a verifiable fact, or it's completely speculation and opinion. It can't be both. Let me know what you finally figure that out.
 

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My reading comprehension is top notch. How do you not understand that "This is my opinion, I don't know" is a very different statement from "My info that says the OSU coaches told him he will be a DE is solid"? They're literally saying two completely opposite things. Either your info is solid and it's a verifiable fact, or it's completely speculation and opinion. It can't be both. Let me know what you finally figure that out.

My opinion is about whether OSU actually sees him sticking as a DE. Not whether they’re offering to look to take him as a DE. Those are two different statements. Pull your head out of your ass.

Statement based on solid information: OSU has told Tunmise they will look at him for both DE and DT. OU and Texas have told him he is a take as a DT only.

Statement based on opinion: I don’t think OSU truly sees him as a DE and will look to play him at DT if he signs once he gets on campus despite what they’re telling him.

Two different things, jack. They are not mutually exclusive. Can’t make it any clearer.
 
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