10,000 Posts for a Flyers Cup in 2019

[Chris p Bacon]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/m/ec4b...207a923cab7/ss_goalie-alex-lyon-makes-94.html
Where has this kid been lol.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

AHL goalie loses blocker, still makes jaw-dropping save with bare hand

 

[awaz]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/m/ec4b...207a923cab7/ss_goalie-alex-lyon-makes-94.html
Where has this kid been lol.

Sweet jesus. Cut the rest of the goalies. If anyone can stop 94/95 at any level i'm cool with them as my starting goalie.

 

[awaz]

Sweet jesus. Cut the rest of the goalies. If anyone can stop 94/95 at any level i'm cool with them as my starting goalie.

Ugh. Morin got hurt (AGAIN) in the 1st

And they played 7 periods with 5 dmen. That's crazy too.

 

[awaz]

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill...h-in-AHL-History-CHL--Worlds-Updates/45/92805

Meltzer says Myers played well over 60 minutes.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

Sweet jesus. Cut the rest of the goalies. If anyone can stop 94/95 at any level i'm cool with them as my starting goalie.

Lol Maybe they were to quick to bring in Mrazek, Hey this could very well be the number 2 punch in our line up. I'd like to see how he does with some more time.

 

[lasgop8]

I agree with you dude.....

Just one season, one time, everyone can stay healthy and with Hexy being able to use the wallet to grab some talent......
This could be the season it gets put in place.

If this is the season that would be awesome ive been waiting long enough.

 

[lasgop8]

This is where we want the Flyers to get to in the next couple of years. As the prospects roll in, they'll be so deep and in such good shape cap wise, that they have this flexibility. They can move good young players for good futures (PLUS draft picks) without hurting the on-ice product. They can make a big trade a la JT Smith and McDonagh, take on their salary, and utilize these non-rental vets to move their good young guys for good prospects and more draft picks in the next offseason. Replenishing what they lost in the Smith/McDonagh deadline deal.

1. Deadline deal adds Smith/McDonagh for Howden (good prospect), Nemestnikov (depth roster player), 1st round pick
2. Team is STACKED for the playoff run, using Miller and McDonagh as well as Point (for example)
3. In the summer, they can move Point for Frost (good prospect) and a first to replace what they lost in the deadline deal
4. First half of the season Smith fills the first half of Point's 2017-18 season. Plus you have McDonagh
5. 2019 deadline you have two first round picks and Frost as trade chips and you can start the whole cycle over again.

That's why drafting well, and hording draft picks, sets you up so well. Once you get to where the Bolts are now, as long as you manage everything right, you just keep that cycle going and keep making runs at the cup. Get strongest at the deadline, weaken a bit in the offseason, grow in the first half of the season, get strongest at the deadline, make a run again.

This all looks good and for us to be in the position that TB is in that would be great. But they are in a good position and haven't won anything yet and as you say Winnipeg and Nashville are in a different level than any other teams. So i guess my question would be How long is it going to be before we are at the level that the very top teams are resulting in a cup.

 

[lasgop8]

Lol Maybe they were to quick to bring in Mrazek, Hey this could very well be the number 2 punch in our line up. I'd like to see how he does with some more time.

Hexy doesn't make mistakes cmon you know that. (sarcasm noted)

 

[awaz]

This all looks good and for us to be in the position that TB is in that would be great. But they are in a good position and haven't won anything yet and as you say Winnipeg and Nashville are in a different level than any other teams. So i guess my question would be How long is it going to be before we are at the level that the very top teams are resulting in a cup.

Winnipeg and Nashville are in a similar position to TB and also haven't won anything. Hockey's a cycle. Pens, Hawks, and Kings got themselves in to a good position where they could make those types of deals and they've taken I think the last 8 cups between them. But eventually that cycle breaks and you have to reload a bit. Your stars get old. Your stars get expensive and the talent level drops and you don't have cap space to even it out.

IMO Nashville, Winnipeg, and TB are the next group to really duke it out for cups for the next few years. I think the Flyers are getting there, a few moves here and there and they've got something.

Find a good 3C to anchor a productive 3rd line
Get a 2nd pair that's a strength instead of a weakness
Get a good goalie

They've got good prospects that could fill all those spots if they pan out. In the meantime, they have the cap space to try to expedite that a little bit. Or they can start moving the prospects/picks to try to expedite it. But you lose some of the strength of your 'war chest' when you make those types of trades. Today you have to move Frost and a 1st for Point. If Frost pans out, he very well may be as good as Point in a couple seasons. So you're down that 1st round pick to expedite the process for lack of a better term. Helps you near term, but hurts your ability to keep that window/cycle going when they look like the Preds, Jets, or Bolts because it's one less piece you have to move.

Obviously you're relying on these prospects to pan out, and that's not guarantee. But from all accounts right now, the Flyers have done a phenomenal job drafting. Frost, Hart, Allison, Sushko, Laczynski, Ratcliffe, Strome, Myers, Lyon, Sanheim all had good, progressive years. Those aren't just 1st round picks either. Sushko, Laczynski, Strome, Myers, and Lyon were all later round guys. Marody is a good example of it too, they drafted him in the 6th round and traded him for a 3rd rounder this season. That's good value management. More valuable pieces. And for a guy that didn't look like he'd have a good shot to make an impact on the NHL team because he was far down the depth chart. (It's like the teenager version of the Point trade for TB. Trade someone who doesn't hurt your team for a greater future value)

 

[awaz]

And that's not to say I don't want them to start expediting things a bit. As I've said before, i'm good with it. Especially if they can get free agents on shorter deals to fill some of those roles (2C, top 4D). Aside from cap space, you don't lose anything in your warchest with free agent adds.

And i'm OK with moving prospects too, but you have to do what makes sense from an organizational value perspective. It doesn't make a lot of sense to make a blockbuster move for Carey Price because you might have that solution in 2-3 years. But since Price is signed forever, it would make sense for Hart to be the centerpiece of that deal. But in addition to Hart you'd probably have to add a 1st rounder and Frost to even get them to listen to you. That might be fine and dandy now, but in 2-3 years when Hart is a top 15 goalie and Price is a top 15 goalie, you're out Frost and a 1st for essentially no reason. Unless you win the cup between now and then, but I don't like the Flyers' chances even + Price in the next 2-3 years. They still have holes they need to fill aside from that and if you bring in Price you significantly damage their ability to fill those other holes.

I like the Flyers chances better in the next 2-3 years if they keep Frost and Hart and use that 1st round pick to fill another hole.

 

[lasgop8]

And that's not to say I don't want them to start expediting things a bit. As I've said before, i'm good with it. Especially if they can get free agents on shorter deals to fill some of those roles (2C, top 4D). Aside from cap space, you don't lose anything in your warchest with free agent adds.

And i'm OK with moving prospects too, but you have to do what makes sense from an organizational value perspective. It doesn't make a lot of sense to make a blockbuster move for Carey Price because you might have that solution in 2-3 years. But since Price is signed forever, it would make sense for Hart to be the centerpiece of that deal. But in addition to Hart you'd probably have to add a 1st rounder and Frost to even get them to listen to you. That might be fine and dandy now, but in 2-3 years when Hart is a top 15 goalie and Price is a top 15 goalie, you're out Frost and a 1st for essentially no reason. Unless you win the cup between now and then, but I don't like the Flyers' chances even + Price in the next 2-3 years. They still have holes they need to fill aside from that and if you bring in Price you significantly damage their ability to fill those other holes.

I like the Flyers chances better in the next 2-3 years if they keep Frost and Hart and use that 1st round pick to fill another hole.

So in this scenario pretty much another 2 years at the very least and probably 3-5 years before we see a cup is the best the Flyers are looking at. I have to say although this plan sounds good the thought of waiting at the very least 2 more futile seasons is a downer.

 

[awaz]

So in this scenario pretty much another 2 years at the very least and probably 3-5 years before we see a cup is the best the Flyers are looking at. I have to say although this plan sounds good the thought of waiting at the very least 2 more futile seasons is a downer.

I definitely agree with that. I think they can certainly improve their chances at winning a cup in the next 1-2 years with free agency, smaller deals, smart deadline moves and player progression, but I think their BEST chances are still 2-3 years down the road.

They're going to be some fun teams though. If G, Coots, and Jake bring it again next year, Simmonds returns to form, and the young guys keep progressing, they're going to be one hell of a tough out in the playoffs.

 

[lasgop8]

Ok you bored sicko's, heres the scenario. You get to package Frost and a 1st round pick for someone on the market. Who do you go after and why? What makes that player worth it?

You never wrote who you would like to get with the trade of these players.

 

[lasgop8]

Jordan Kyrou wins the most outstanding player in the OHL this season. Ironically he is a St Louis Blues draft choice.

 

[mall3013]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/m/ec4b...207a923cab7/ss_goalie-alex-lyon-makes-94.html
Where has this kid been lol.

Lyon was amazing last night. Actually he has been playing on his head in this series so far. Charlotte has outshot LV every game by a wide margin. Lyon will get the MVP for this series. I think this game probably sucked the life out of Charlotte. Can you imagine outshotting the opponent by over 40 shots and coming up with the loss?

 

[lasgop8]

Lyon was amazing last night. Actually he has been playing on his head in this series so far. Charlotte has outshot LV every game by a wide margin. Lyon will get the MVP for this series. I think this game probably sucked the life out of Charlotte. Can you imagine outshotting the opponent by over 40 shots and coming up with the loss?

How about stopping 94 shots in one game and its not even the record.

 

[mall3013]

How about stopping 94 shots in one game and its not even the record.

That record was by Michael Leighton if I'm not mistaken? So the Phantoms can close it out on the road tomorrow.. Hopefully Lyon has some gas in the tank to close it out and get some rest for the next series.

 

[lasgop8]

That record was by Michael Leighton if I'm not mistaken? So the Phantoms can close it out on the road tomorrow.. Hopefully Lyon has some gas in the tank to close it out and get some rest for the next series.

Its gotta be tough to come back from 8 periods in one night.

 

[lasgop8]

Lyon was amazing last night. Actually he has been playing on his head in this series so far. Charlotte has outshot LV every game by a wide margin. Lyon will get the MVP for this series. I think this game probably sucked the life out of Charlotte. Can you imagine outshotting the opponent by over 40 shots and coming up with the loss?

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/5-craziest-stats-phantoms-5-062809590.html