I'm going to be honest about Seattle

[chf]

Seahawk fans don't think he was the worst coach ever.

to be fair...

Oh right, he probably wasn't worse than Bevell.

 

[Racer8825]

But what fun is it for NWP to take it that way, when he can jump right to 'sensitive,' like the good little button-pusher he is...

That's what he always does LOL.

 

[Racer8825]

to be fair...

Oh right, he probably wasn't worse than Bevell.

I don't think any coach can be as bad as Bevell was for us last season.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

But what fun is it for NWP to take it that way, when he can jump right to 'sensitive,' like the good little button-pusher he is...

Good morning CPT Delicate

 

[flyerhawk]

What part of needing 2-3 years together for a line to gel do you want to keep ignoring?

Talk about holy hyperbole Batman. "JS/PC are completely incompetent"

Paging Mr. Kettle

Tom Cable was given complete control of the line for 7 years. It got worse and worse under his tenure.

Every single team in the NFL has to live with attrition on the OL. Good teams plan for it and the Seahawks TRIED to plan for it. But either the guys Cable wanted(Ifedi, Britt, Pocic, Sweezy, Glowinski, etc) weren't that good to begin with or he wasn't able to get the most out of them.

But you got me curious about other teams. So I went to take a look a the Patriots depth chart. Here's what I see of the starters

1 1st round pick
1 3rd round pick
1 5th round pick
1 4th round pick
1 UDFA

Then I went to go look at the Patriots draft and where they drafted lineman since 2010

2 1st round picks
0 2nd round picks
2 3rd round picks
4 4th round picks
2 5th round picks
2 6th round picks
0 7th round picks

So in the same time period in which the Seahawks ignored the line and drafted 16 players the Patriots dedicated resources to the line and 12 picks on the line and MORE picks in the first 3 rounds than the Patriots. How is that possible?

 

[flyerhawk]

to be fair...

Oh right, he probably wasn't worse than Bevell.

Any Seahawk fan who has been around long enough knows plenty about terrible coaches.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

But what fun is it for NWP to take it that way, when he can jump right to 'sensitive,' like the good little button-pusher he is...

I read it differently as AZ on the rise with cap space and Seattle staying the course. I should have figured he knew Seattle's cap space for next year.

 

[Racer8825]

Tom Cable was given complete control of the line for 7 years. It got worse and worse under his tenure.

Every single team in the NFL has to live with attrition on the OL. Good teams plan for it and the Seahawks TRIED to plan for it. But either the guys Cable wanted(Ifedi, Britt, Pocic, Sweezy, Glowinski, etc) weren't that good to begin with or he wasn't able to get the most out of them.

But you got me curious about other teams. So I went to take a look a the Patriots depth chart. Here's what I see of the starters

1 1st round pick
1 3rd round pick
1 5th round pick
1 4th round pick
1 UDFA

Then I went to go look at the Patriots draft and where they drafted lineman since 2010

2 1st round picks
0 2nd round picks
2 3rd round picks
4 4th round picks
2 5th round picks
2 6th round picks
0 7th round picks

So in the same time period in which the Seahawks ignored the line and drafted 16 players the Patriots dedicated resources to the line and 12 picks on the line and MORE picks in the first 3 rounds than the Patriots. How is that possible?

I don't get it either. It's almost like he's grasping at straws here.

 

[flyerhawk]

But what fun is it for NWP to take it that way, when he can jump right to 'sensitive,' like the good little button-pusher he is...

He sure does love call other people sensitive when they disagree with him.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Tom Cable was given complete control of the line for 7 years. It got worse and worse under his tenure.

Every single team in the NFL has to live with attrition on the OL. Good teams plan for it and the Seahawks TRIED to plan for it. But either the guys Cable wanted(Ifedi, Britt, Pocic, Sweezy, Glowinski, etc) weren't that good to begin with or he wasn't able to get the most out of them.

But you got me curious about other teams. So I went to take a look a the Patriots depth chart. Here's what I see of the starters

1 1st round pick
1 3rd round pick
1 5th round pick
1 4th round pick
1 UDFA

Then I went to go look at the Patriots draft and where they drafted lineman since 2010

2 1st round picks
0 2nd round picks
2 3rd round picks
4 4th round picks
2 5th round picks
2 6th round picks
0 7th round picks

So in the same time period in which the Seahawks ignored the line and drafted 16 players the Patriots dedicated resources to the line and 12 picks on the line and MORE picks in the first 3 rounds than the Patriots. How is that possible?

Well first I still believe Seattle picked 13 not 16 like I showed you. I count at least 15 Linemen drafted by NE. Take note how many are still on the roster and playing effectively/starting. There is the difference. BB and Scar find linemen that can play. If we were talking DB that'd be a whole different story.

NFL Draft Tracker New England Patriots, 1995 to 2018 - FF Today

NE locked players up long term. BB wasn't afraid to pay them. That line had been kept together for years. First Vollmer then Solder and for a short time both. BB restocked finding versatile players both thru the draft and free agency who could play effectively across the line when injuries hit or players started moving on.

Again the key with any Oline is longevity.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

He sure does love call other people sensitive when they disagree with him.

Similar to how many on here want to call people trolls or haters because they disagree.

 

[Racer8825]

He sure does love call other people sensitive when they disagree with him.

He calls me sensitive all the time. I'm starting to get a kick out of it.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

If NWPatsfan ran the Chiefs, he would have paid Jeff Allen, Rodney Hudson, Asamoah, and Brandon Albert probably. You would have a good center at least.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

If NWPatsfan ran the Chiefs, he would have paid Jeff Allen, Rodney Hudson, Asamoah, and Brandon Albert probably. You would have a good center at least.

Actually if I ran the Chiefs, first I would've fired the scouts.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Actually if I ran the Chiefs, first I would've fired the scouts.

That'd be pretty interesting since they have drafted as much talent as anyone since 2013...

 

[NWPATSFAN]

That's what he always does LOL.

Says the sensitive guy who's been posting for two weeks now

 

[NWPATSFAN]

That'd be pretty interesting since they have drafted as much talent as anyone since 2013...

How are those linemen working out for you?

 

[Racer8825]

Says the sensitive guy who's been posting for two weeks now

There you go with the sensitive shit again.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

How are those linemen working out for you?

Got average/above average players at 4 out of the 5 spots; an elite RT, a very good RG, a good C, and an ok LT...

Does reasonably well in pass pro outside of LG...

 

[Racer8825]

Got average/above average players at 4 out of the 5 spots; an elite RT, a very good RG, a good C, and an ok LT...

Sounds to me like it's working out pretty well for you.