Saquon Barkley

TREFF said:

there is something to the college correlation though, more than coincidence. Especially with Wisconsin (and, used to be with Nebraska). When your school continually pumps out massive, athletic olineman, like Wisconsin and Nebraska do/used to do..those RB' look damned good, and when those holes aren't there at the next level, they don't always make the adjustment. My Huskers had a few exceptions..Roger Craig, Ahman Green, but generally, those studs that looked like world beaters behind an NFL line in college, don't translate well.
Similar to Texas tech QB's and WR's now (used to be BYU)..There is more than simple coincidence to the theory

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DirtDirtDirt said:

I'm 5th, 8th and 10th

8 and 10 I def take him

5th is where I'm struggling cause I don't want AB, so it could be Barkley or Kamara

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averagejoe said:

If you're drafting with other Giants fans, how do you know he'll be there at 5?
The "homer" factor could see him going sooner than expected. Gotta factor that in.

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night said:

I think the simple fact that NY won't be very competitive and will give up on the run early in games doesn't help his chances.

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DirtDirtDirt said:

Not that I agree with the Giants assessment, but pass catching backs in PPR could shine in come from behind passing situations.....When defenses loosen up, that underneath pass is what they give up...Cant tell you how many games I won or lost in fantasy cause a RB has 7 catches in a meaningless blowout 4th quarter

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DirtDirtDirt said:

Not that I agree with the Giants assessment, but pass catching backs in PPR could shine in come from behind passing situations.....When defenses loosen up, that underneath pass is what they give up...Cant tell you how many games I won or lost in fantasy cause a RB has 7 catches in a meaningless blowout 4th quarter

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TREFF said:

COULD is much different than what's being thrown out there in this instance.

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SmokingMonkey said:

but there isn't a way to actually realize that perceived value in year 1, since he'll cost you a 1st round pick no matter what, so if you want Barkley, your random draft spot has everything to do with it, whether or not you are drafting him this year or next year.

or are we talking about keeper/dynasty leagues?
I thought this thread was about redraft

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Bandit said:

The thing about that though it that more and more teams are not putting their starting running backs in even if they are pass catching backs in the 4th quarter when they have no chance to win, so instead of Barkley getting all those catches, it will probably be Wayne Gallman.

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DirtDirtDirt said:

Eh, maybe, don't necessarily buy that

Down 14 in the 4th, most starting backs are still out there

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averagejoe said:

I buy it.
How else do guys like Toby gerhart, Michael Turner and the like get their garbage time yards that get them noticed for the next season?

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DirtDirtDirt said:

Both those guys were regulars for stretches, not just garbage time players

I can't imagine you play fantasy and haven't won or lost on garbage time receptions, when Davonte Freeman has 6 catches on the final drive of a 21 point loss

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TREFF said:

I think both Bandit and Dirt are dead on balls right. The determining factor in each case by case instance is whether you own the guy or not.

If you own the guy you need that garbage for, they put in the "change of pace" back, if your opponent owns him, you're damn right that lil SOB stays in

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DirtDirtDirt said:

Lol
Yup

But I still think we are talking small samples here

I think most teams are in shouting distance of a competitive game at the start of most 4th quarters

I won't be drafting based on a player being on a team that could be involved in blowouts, that seems like a recipe that will backfire

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HaroldSeattle said:

I don't see Odell being down graded because the Giants might have some blow outside in theory. It's more of effort to nitpick Barkley potential.

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averagejoe said:

Of course we're nitpicking.
What else is there to do in the preseason?

Even in Elliott's monster rookie season, his share of carries among all the Dallas RB was 72%. Alf, McFadden and others got the other 28%.

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