Kawhi wants out of San Antonio

Battlelyon · Jun 21, 2018

But of course the Lakers now are more desperate to get Leonard, to give LeBron more incentive to come.

tlance · Jun 21, 2018

flyerhawk said:
So clear out the roster, max out on 3 players and fill the rest of the roster with minimum vet players?

It has worked before.

But also, because Kawhi is only making 20 million and they would hopefully keep at least 1 guy like Hart, they could land a pretty strong 7 or 8.

And you know how easy it is to get vets and midseason buyouts to sign for less if you have a legit contender.

flyerhawk · Jun 21, 2018

tlance said:
It has worked before.

But also, because Kawhi is only making 20 million and they would hopefully keep at least 1 guy like Hart, they could land a pretty strong 7 or 8.

And you know how easy it is to get vets and midseason buyouts to sign for less if you have a legit contender.

It can work, certainly. But it isn't easy. And the timing is going to make it pretty tough. That Deng contract makes it really tough.

tlance · Jun 21, 2018

Battlelyon said:
Lets face the facts, I wouldn't seriously think about trading Leonard until close to the trading deadline. Teams will be willing to pay more than as opposed to now. Some team other than the Lakers would think it would be worth the risk.

I don't think that is necessarily true. Some deadline deals turn out well, but many times they end up being lesser offers.

There are a lot of variables that could impact what teams are willing to pay

tlance · Jun 21, 2018

flyerhawk said:
It can work, certainly. But it isn't easy. And the timing is going to make it pretty tough. That Deng contract makes it really tough.

For sure.

If BAll INGRam and Kuzma are all leaving, Deng needs to be out too

Battlelyon · Jun 21, 2018

tlance said:
I don't think that is necessarily true. Some deadline deals turn out well, but many times they end up being lesser offers.

There are a lot of variables that could impact what teams are willing to pay

Possibly, we will see. No hurry to trade him if you the Spurs.

trojanfan12 · Jun 21, 2018

OutlawImmortal said:
LA is Kawhi's preferred destination. They might not have the most valuable assets but they're willing to give more than anyone else, that's why their deal will be superior.

Exactly right.

It doesn't matter who can put together the best package. It matters who will.

The Celtics and Sixers can both put together better offers. But that doesn't mean they will if they think he'll be a 1 year rental.

trojanfan12 · Jun 21, 2018

Battlelyon said:
Weak sauce, if you actually believe the Lakers can offer the best package, which they can't. Not to mention to you're fucked anyway you look at it on any real return value.

They can if the other teams think Kawhi will be a 1 year rental.

The question isn't whether or not another team CAN beat the Lakers offer.

The question is...will they?

trojanfan12 · Jun 21, 2018

flyerhawk said:
Truth be told I would be shocked if the Lakers offer anything serious prior to FA. Why give up assets to get Kawhi if they can get Lebron and PG?

I'd say...so that they can get all 3.

flyerhawk · Jun 21, 2018

trojanfan12 said:
I'd say...so that they can get all 3.

You willing to give up Ingram, Kuzma, and Ball to get Kawhi?

trojanfan12 · Jun 21, 2018

flyerhawk said:
You willing to give up Ingram, Kuzma, and Ball to get Kawhi?

Yes. If you get a chance to put Lebron, PG and Kawhi on the same team. You kind of have to.

I love the young kids and would have no issue being patient and watching them grow if that were the direction things went.

But I would pack them up and drive them to San Antonio myself if it meant getting those 3 all on the Lakers.

Wamu · Jun 21, 2018

trojanfan12 said:
Yes. If you get a chance to put Lebron, PG and Kawhi on the same team. You kind of have to.

I love the young kids and would have no issue being patient and watching them grow if that were the direction things went.

But I would pack them up and drive them to San Antonio myself if it meant getting those 3 all on the Lakers.

Don't forget about Dwight Howard. He deserves a 2nd chance in L.A. because he was treated verly badly by the entire organization. Shame on them! But he could be the defensive foundation next year w/ LeBron, PG & Kawhi. And w/ Papa Ball's behind the scenes motivational abilities they could take the Warriors down next year.

tlance · Jun 21, 2018

trojanfan12 said:
Yes. If you get a chance to put Lebron, PG and Kawhi on the same team. You kind of have to.

I love the young kids and would have no issue being patient and watching them grow if that were the direction things went.

But I would pack them up and drive them to San Antonio myself if it meant getting those 3 all on the Lakers.

You have a seat for @ChiefsLakers67?

He might be looking to get out of town for a bit too.

Black Adam · Jun 21, 2018

tlance said:
You have a seat for @ChiefsLakers67?

He might be looking to get out of town for a bit too.

get me PG and Kawhi and i'll be fine...

OutlawImmortal · Jun 21, 2018

If I'm the Celtics I want Kawhi on my team pretty badly. Why not slide Hayward down to the 2, send Horford/Brown/Picks, you can maybe get Howard for cheap if you need length and you can play small ball with Tatum.

That could chase LeBron out of the East and into the arms of the Lakers.

True Lakers Fan · Jun 21, 2018

shopson67 said:
Yeah, that wasn't the case this year. The Warriors weren't losing more due to rest, it was injuries and a hot (regular season) Rockets team.

I understand that. My point is that the best team does not have to have the best sees

gohusk · Jun 21, 2018

Why couldn't he just keep his mouth shut, not extend, and take care of this crap behind closed doors? Just play out the contract. Injuries can happen in any sport but this isn't the NFL where it's a fact of life. Now it's nothing but more drama.

shopson67 · Jun 21, 2018

Battlelyon said:
Come on, man. Maybe the Lakers will get Leonard but it won't be this year. Pops ain't trading Leonard to the Lakers.

I was speaking in general terms for all teams. As far as trading him to the Lakers, if it's the best offer by a decent margin, it would be petty not to.

ManuForever · Jun 22, 2018

Good to see even if chances are low, that the Spurs are doing literally everything they can to fix this.

Battlelyon · Jun 22, 2018

gohusk said:
Why couldn't he just keep his mouth shut, not extend, and take care of this crap behind closed doors? Just play out the contract. Injuries can happen in any sport but this isn't the NFL where it's a fact of life. Now it's nothing but more drama.

I think Leonard has to many people in his inner circle and they are not on the same page with him.

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