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Lol that was the start of a response to FFF but Ill finish my thought later but yea Vegas wasn't handed a cup by any means.
Of course it wasn't handed to them but they received 10 times the expansion deal that anyone else has. If you can't acknowledge this then you better take Bettmans jock off your face in a hurry. His jock doesn't smell of money but the whole expansion process does. Anyone can see that Vegas success brings more money from Seattle and so on... If this process has shown us anything having a team of 2nd and 3rd liners outweighs a good top end but bad bottom 6. rolling 4 lines is a benefit as players remain fresh and play at a higher level but most teams can't do this.

I do give them credit for taking advantage of this but look at the Flyers it takes years to build up their depth. Why should an expansion team immediately get it and not have to protect it in the next expansion? That's the major piss off and you guys shouldn't be jumping with joy while this embarrassment takes place. After all it was set up by Bettman to build up his ego especially after he royally failed in Zona.
 

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Of course it wasn't handed to them but they received 10 times the expansion deal that anyone else has. If you can't acknowledge this then you better take Bettmans jock off your face in a hurry. His jock doesn't smell of money but the whole expansion process does. Anyone can see that Vegas success brings more money from Seattle and so on... If this process has shown us anything having a team of 2nd and 3rd liners outweighs a good top end but bad bottom 6. rolling 4 lines is a benefit as players remain fresh and play at a higher level but most teams can't do this.

I do give them credit for taking advantage of this but look at the Flyers it takes years to build up their depth. Why should an expansion team immediately get it and not have to protect it in the next expansion? That's the major piss off and you guys shouldn't be jumping with joy while this embarrassment takes place. After all it was set up by Bettman to build up his ego especially after he royally failed in Zona.
Okay lol taking Bettmans jock off my face(such hostility) I don't disagree with you on the actual set up of their franchise and yes they got a pass for next season, but to say the team itself is embarrassing is a little far of a stretch. I hope they win it all and don't care who likes it. We need more hockey in the states so hopefully it leads to more hockey. Bettman ruins everything NHL it's just a given and fans have to roll with it.
 

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I’m anti-Vegas also. Not quite as aggressively as some, but I don’t want to see them win it all in their first season. That’s a pretty bad look at least for the teams that haven’t won recently, at most it’s a bad look for the league itself.

However, I do think it is helping the popularity of the sport which is a good thing.
 

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Carter Hart named Goalie of the Year in the CHL. First goalie in CHL history to win it twice.
 

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Okay lol taking Bettmans jock off my face(such hostility) I don't disagree with you on the actual set up of their franchise and yes they got a pass for next season, but to say the team itself is embarrassing is a little far of a stretch. I hope they win it all and don't care who likes it. We need more hockey in the states so hopefully it leads to more hockey. Bettman ruins everything NHL it's just a given and fans have to roll with it.
You misunderstood me the players themselves have nothing to be ashamed of but Bettman screwing with the league to this extent sure does. He's made a mockery of the other teams. Being a fan of the sport I have to shake my head at this fool. We've all watched our team claw for every inch and in one fell swoop he gives an expansion the keys to the cup. Yes they had to work for it but for F's sake why should they have a better chance than most of the league. It's a joke. They will also probably win the cup as the caps can't skate with those guys they are far better than what anyone could have imagined because shit like this isn't supposed to happen in a first year.

Good for hockey? Yes from an expansion and money standpoint but not for the fans that pay hard earned money to cheer for their team year after year and watch another gifted these advantages immediately. Do I and others have a right to be pissed? Absolutely...
 

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You misunderstood me the players themselves have nothing to be ashamed of but Bettman screwing with the league to this extent sure does. He's made a mockery of the other teams. Being a fan of the sport I have to shake my head at this fool. We've all watched our team claw for every inch and in one fell swoop he gives an expansion the keys to the cup. Yes they had to work for it but for F's sake why should they have a better chance than most of the league. It's a joke. They will also probably win the cup as the caps can't skate with those guys they are far better than what anyone could have imagined because shit like this isn't supposed to happen in a first year.

Good for hockey? Yes from an expansion and money standpoint but not for the fans that pay hard earned money to cheer for their team year after year and watch another gifted these advantages immediately. Do I and others have a right to be pissed? Absolutely...

I am pissed, for sure. I think fans of teams like ours that have been consistently competitive and made it to the Cup Finals often, yet not often won it should be equally upset. The time and effort that leaders, coaches and players within our organization have put in over decades to win a Cup and yet we've fallen just short many times. Vegas barges in and puts the whole fucking thing together in year one, which should be impossible. It's a fucking joke...an absolute disgrace to the Nhl and hockey as a whole.

The only remaining way to avert a complete disaster is for the Caps to beat them handily in the finals.
 

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It's tough to say whether Vegas will be able to continue this run on into next season.

They probably lose Perron and Neal, then have to give raises to Karlsson, Miller and Theodore, but somehow may have $30 million to do all of this with, plus sign free agents.

For how long can fucking 36 year old Deryk Engelland be your 2nd or 3rd best defender? That's insane to me.
 

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You misunderstood me the players themselves have nothing to be ashamed of but Bettman screwing with the league to this extent sure does. He's made a mockery of the other teams. Being a fan of the sport I have to shake my head at this fool. We've all watched our team claw for every inch and in one fell swoop he gives an expansion the keys to the cup. Yes they had to work for it but for F's sake why should they have a better chance than most of the league. It's a joke. They will also probably win the cup as the caps can't skate with those guys they are far better than what anyone could have imagined because shit like this isn't supposed to happen in a first year.

Good for hockey? Yes from an expansion and money standpoint but not for the fans that pay hard earned money to cheer for their team year after year and watch another gifted these advantages immediately. Do I and others have a right to be pissed? Absolutely...
Okay I think we're on the same page,Vegas def got the full on royal treatment from Buttman because this fool thinks he's saving hockey lol. Everything he touch's turns to shit for the league and the gifts he gave Vegas were beyond insane, I guess we'll see how the next expansion team is treated.
As far as the the team goes, I and everybody else didn't expect them to win more than half their games, their success isn't based this year on their advantages but it def could be going forward and that's where it becomes a problem, I like it that they wanted Vegas to be competitive out of the gate instead of a Cleveland Browns type of team for years to come but yea it would be nice if they had to earn their way first. Funny thing is though, if they would have lost in the 1st round or just missed the playoffs no one would be pissed they would just say they over achieved. Either way I'm gonna enjoy it better than watching the Penqueers Hoist a shady cup because we all know that history too lol.
 

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Quick hits on a couple of topics:

Vegas: The expansion process was more favorable than previous, but not only did George McPHee do an excellent job in picking players of character and game sense, but Gallant has done an excellent job of molding them into a team on the ice. The success that the team had during stretches where both Fleury and Subban were injured.

Memorial Cup/End of the CHL season: Rubstrov is still a work in progress. Will be play center or wing? That remains to be seen. Carter Hart is all that is advertised and some. He should spend a year in the AHL to get acclimated to the Pro game...he has the drive that may make that a tough decision. Strome is still a work in progress. He has the smarts, the hand skills and the vision. He is still a step slow. Like his older brother he has to improve both his top end speed and his first step.

Offseason: I have more thoughts than can fit here....but, they will be coming.
 

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Agree with wbon on Vegas. I dislike Bettman as much as the next guy, but GMGM did a good job, same for Gallant.

And I still say Florida doesn’t get enough credit in Vegas’ success. Top two playoff scorers and the coach of the year, handed over, with picks! If Florida doesn’t royally botch the expansion draft, does Vegas make this run?
 

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Okay I think we're on the same page,Vegas def got the full on royal treatment from Buttman because this fool thinks he's saving hockey lol. Everything he touch's turns to shit for the league and the gifts he gave Vegas were beyond insane, I guess we'll see how the next expansion team is treated.
As far as the the team goes, I and everybody else didn't expect them to win more than half their games, their success isn't based this year on their advantages but it def could be going forward and that's where it becomes a problem, I like it that they wanted Vegas to be competitive out of the gate instead of a Cleveland Browns type of team for years to come but yea it would be nice if they had to earn their way first. Funny thing is though, if they would have lost in the 1st round or just missed the playoffs no one would be pissed they would just say they over achieved. Either way I'm gonna enjoy it better than watching the Penqueers Hoist a shady cup because we all know that history too lol.
I can't disagree that I'd rather have Vegas and caps over penqueens no doubt about it! You are also correct even if Vegas made the playoffs and were knocked out it would have been a huge win for them.
I'm not sure how engeland who couldn't make it in Pitt and Calgary is now a solid Dman? Doesn't make any sense...
 

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Agree with wbon on Vegas. I dislike Bettman as much as the next guy, but GMGM did a good job, same for Gallant.

And I still say Florida doesn’t get enough credit in Vegas’ success. Top two playoff scorers and the coach of the year, handed over, with picks! If Florida doesn’t royally botch the expansion draft, does Vegas make this run?
Florida sure didn't help the cause that's for sure. How do you do that?
 

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Methinks the caps need game one as Vegas is most likely a little rusty after the layoff. Also caps haven't been good at home. So far BHL not as biased against their opponent hopefully stays that way...
 

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Caps have no chance and the non calls got worse as the game went on. It is clear that the BHL is now giving Vegas the penqueens special treatment. Reaves crosschecking Carlson to then score was classic...
 

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Pretty good game last night, could've went either way. Vegas looked rusty all night and the Caps looked very confused at times, craziness. Oh well hope it stays this way the whole series.
 

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Pretty good game last night, could've went either way. Vegas looked rusty all night and the Caps looked very confused at times, craziness. Oh well hope it stays this way the whole series.
Awesome game last night!! Great for the sport to see these two teams come out there and play an exciting game. Up and down action heavy hitting and goals galore. I hope every game is like last nights. Lets go Vegas!!!
 

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The only people who should be ashamed or mad at the fact of Vegas making it this far are the teams that havent won anything in years namely the Flyers . We had plenty of chances to win and didn't so this isn't on Buttmann. Lets go Vegas!
 
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