Denver Broncos Players, Others Express Shock at Brock Osweiler Contract

[GNG]

Love Harris capping it with LOL. Basically saying "not like we need ya."

Go Broncos!

It's "Tebow Time".

 

[Bolts]

You're right I'm sure we can count on the Chiefs going on a 10-0 run to end the season every year. And how will they ever replace their 4th best LB and a DE that had maybe 2-3 good games last year.

I also wouldn't count on the Chiefs starting 1-5 to start the season in 2016. We'll see if the Broncos defense can carry them to 12+ wins again, because I wouldn't expect much from the offense. That said, I think they were smart to not overpay Brock.

 

[Oldschool739]

The Broncos have replacements for Malik Jackson and Danny Trevathan who while good players for us aren't people you can't live without. The main core of the Defense with the great pass rushers and great defensive backfield are still around so Denver hasn't had any real tragic losses.

Also unless our next starting QB is someone like Mark Sanchez they'll be fine. Whoever the starting QB is will be asked to just manage the game instead of being relied on to win it themselves every game so even someone like Kaepernick or RG3 can manage that. Especially since Denver has more talent on Offense than both the 49ers and Redskins did when they played for them.

Also Denver isn't losing CJ Anderson, they might lose Ronnie Hillman but even he wouldn't be that huge of a loss.

Your optimism must be on crack or something, Jackson was a significant part of that D even though not the star Miller is......And it is being reported that Anderson is leaving because they put a low tender on him and he is the starting RB.....And if you think RG 3& out can manage a championship run in any sense, you are not very bright...
Sanchez is a better qb than him so that outta tell you something....
We'll have to see who they come up with, maybe they could trade for Bradford and if he could stay healthy and the D be as good as last yr, and Wade not return to his normal losing ways, and Kubes stay healthy and, and , and.
Ah dadburnit, just hope for a miracle, it is more likely than all of those things.....

 

[redseat]

Texans will regret this

In a couple of years probably but I think they will be fine for the first few

 

[GNG]

Tebow, Tebow, Tebow !!!

 

[Duffman]

Your optimism must be on crack or something, Jackson was a significant part of that D even though not the star Miller is......And it is being reported that Anderson is leaving because they put a low tender on him and he is the starting RB.....And if you think RG 3& out can manage a championship run in any sense, you are not very bright...
Sanchez is a better qb than him so that outta tell you something....
We'll have to see who they come up with, maybe they could trade for Bradford and if he could stay healthy and the D be as good as last yr, and Wade not return to his normal losing ways, and Kubes stay healthy and, and , and.
Ah dadburnit, just hope for a miracle, it is more likely than all of those things.....

Just because Denver put a tender on Anderson doesn't mean he's gone, Denver can and will likely match the offer because they know how valuable he is.

Also when RG3 is given an actual good team to play with(like he did in his rookie year) he's shown what he can do. Obviously you give him crap he's gonna play like crap too because he hadn't developed into a type of QB that can make his team better just by being there. A lot to ask of a guy in his 2nd year coming off an injury. I'm not saying he's some amazing QB who will dominate the league but he certainly better than what Washington allowed him to do the past few years.

And let's not forget John Elway is actually good at his job, knows what he's doing, and knows how to properly run a team, I'd like to see you argue any of that about Dan Snyder.

 

[Oldschool739]

You also said Elway dumping Fox and picking up Kubiak would be a debacle. Whiffed on that one.



If by key pieces you mean some good players that could and likely are a product the system....sure

I don't recall saying that, I recall saying that PM would not fit Kubes system, and wasn't off on that....
But I have been wrong before, I got big shoulders and can handle it, but I wasn't wrong on this one now was I, Einstein ?????

 

[Texas Jefe]

Trevathan laughing in his tweet as he is on his way to Chicago

that's what I was thinking- why include his tweet when he's a FA too, and will also go to the highest bidder.

 

[Texas Jefe]

Texans will regret this

I agree, possibly: I've been very critical of OB's decisions, i.e. not taking a QB and drafting that one play wonder and physical Freak instead.

Not sure if Osweiler is the answer. Could be wrong, I certainly admit that. He's at least had four years to learn the NFL game, something any rookie wont have.

 

[wingsauce7]

Any team that pays a QB that kind of cash with 7 starts to his name is insane IMO. I'm glad the Broncos didn't attempt to match that number. Move on, we've been there before. The game has lost any semblance of common sense.

Good luck Texans and BO.

 

[Oldschool739]

Just because Denver put a tender on Anderson doesn't mean he's gone, Denver can and will likely match the offer because they know how valuable he is.

Also when RG3 is given an actual good team to play with(like he did in his rookie year) he's shown what he can do. Obviously you give him crap he's gonna play like crap too because he hadn't developed into a type of QB that can make his team better just by being there. A lot to ask of a guy in his 2nd year coming off an injury. I'm not saying he's some amazing QB who will dominate the league but he certainly better than what Washington allowed him to do the past few years.

And let's not forget John Elway is actually good at his job, knows what he's doing, and knows how to properly run a team, I'd like to see you argue any of that about Dan Snyder.

I don't think they have the option to match on a low tender, and other teams are showing interest in him obviously.....So seeing they weren't willing to pay Oz and he skipped, they could be out bid and most likely will...

Now on the RG 3& out being successful at this lever;

 

[bksballer89]

I agree, possibly: I've been very critical of OB's decisions, i.e. not taking a QB and drafting that one play wonder and physical Freak instead.

Not sure if Osweiler is the answer. Could be wrong, I certainly admit that. He's at least had four years to learn the NFL game, something any rookie wont have.

I'm not sure if this guy is better than the best version of Matt Schaub Houston had a few years ago

 

[Duffman]

I don't think they have the option to match on a low tender, and other teams are showing interest in him obviously.....So seeing they weren't willing to pay Oz and he skipped, they could be out bid and most likely will...

You can always match an offer on a RFA. Unless someone overpays like crazy for him Anderson isn't going anywhere especially since they don't have to pay Brock $18 million.

 

[DJ]

RGIII would be the smartest acquisition for the Broncos right now.

 

[Oldschool739]

You can always match an offer on a RFA. Unless someone overpays like crazy for him Anderson isn't going anywhere especially since they don't have to pay Brock $18 million.

They're gonna pay somebody to qb that team and may end up paying more unless they're going with a rookie...
And according to the article I read, low tender does not give a team the right to simply match another teams offer, they have to beat it and that puts the dealing power in the players hands...
So we've already learned there is no loyalty in football "RIGHT" ??????

 

[Rockinkuwait]

Just because Denver put a tender on Anderson doesn't mean he's gone, Denver can and will likely match the offer because they know how valuable he is.

Also when RG3 is given an actual good team to play with(like he did in his rookie year) he's shown what he can do. Obviously you give him crap he's gonna play like crap too because he hadn't developed into a type of QB that can make his team better just by being there. A lot to ask of a guy in his 2nd year coming off an injury. I'm not saying he's some amazing QB who will dominate the league but he certainly better than what Washington allowed him to do the past few years.

And let's not forget John Elway is actually good at his job, knows what he's doing, and knows how to properly run a team, I'd like to see you argue any of that about Dan Snyder.

I don't know about RGIII, he looked great his rookie year but his decisions and health obviously were massive concerns after. And Cousins did pretty well last year with the same offense. 2014 I thought RGIII looked a lot worse than Colt McCoy and Cousins.

 

[Duffman]

I don't know about RGIII, he looked great his rookie year but his decisions and health obviously were massive concerns after. And Cousins did pretty well last year with the same offense. 2014 I thought RGIII looked a lot worse than Colt McCoy and Cousins.

Cousins looked good this year but he looked awful in 2013 and just ok in 2014. Whereas RG3 looked great in 2012 and pretty good in 2013 before going to hell in 2014. And RG3 started 7 games in 2013 and was sacked an average of 5 times a game, hard to look good when you're constantly on your ass most of the game.

RG3 isn't a great player but for 2 of the 3 years he's played he's looked good to even really good at times, you can't ignore 2013 but he's definitely good enough to take a chance on.

 

[Rockinkuwait]

Cousins looked good this year but he looked awful in 2013 and just ok in 2014. Whereas RG3 looked great in 2012 and pretty good in 2013 before going to hell in 2014. And RG3 started 7 games in 2013 and was sacked an average of 5 times a game, hard to look good when you're constantly on your ass most of the game.

RG3 isn't a great player but for 2 of the 3 years he's played he's looked good to even really good at times, you can't ignore 2013 but he's definitely good enough to take a chance on.

His 2013 season was really bad as well as 2014. He was getting sacked a lot, but that was heavily on him, and he kept putting the ball on the ground when he was hit too, took off too late, and was constantly getting caught before a first down when he ran. He kept trying to extend plays rather than make quick reads, and getting killed back there. You'd see two safeties stepping up to the line and it's like he was oblivious a blitz was coming. I thought he looked really indecisive, especially in the red zone and left a LOT of points on the board.

11 TD's 9 INT's and 10 fumbles his last 11 games in 2013, and failed to get the offense over 20 points in 8 of those 11 games.


2014 it really fell apart too. As you say he was sacked 33 times to 214 pass attempts. Cousins came in, same exact line but quicker decisions, 8 sacks in 204 attempts. Night and day with the QB change, which is what you usually see with a mobile QB trying to extend plays vs. one who makes quicker reads.

Take a look at Osweiler vs. Manning this season, or Tebow in 2011 vs. Manning in 2012. Only difference between those two years is Kuper and Walton got hurt in 2012 but were healthy for Tebow. Sacks are largely driven by the pre-snap reads, and decision making of the QB. If you have an amazing line you can maybe protect him and keep him healthy. Denver really needs to make some moves to get decent there.

2012 he was great. Past 3 seasons definitely all below average, and trending worse and worse by year. I hope RGIII does turn his career around, I really loved watching him play that rookie year (except when he destroyed my Eagles lol).

 

[MHSL82]

It is shocking, he's been with them for some time, was mentored by one of the best QBs ever to play, and he did win some crucial games when Denver D was sputtering.

Small sample size of a QB teams didn't have film on a good team with a great defense. I know someone seeing my Niners avatar that'll sound like Kaepernick, har har har.

 

[Anointed One]

Texans will regret this

Agreed... He is Schaub 2.0 imo...