Texas Rangers 2022 - 2023 Offseason Thread

[armadillooutlaw]

I dream big LOL

Would you be disappointed with a starting rotation of Perez-Bassitt-Gray-Odorizzy-Dunning/Otto?
JMO that's probably the most realistic outcome.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

Would you be disappointed with a starting rotation of Perez-Bassitt-Gray-Odorizzy-Dunning/Otto?
JMO that's probably the most realistic outcome.

yes

 

[saddles]

Would you be disappointed with a starting rotation of Perez-Bassitt-Gray-Odorizzy-Dunning/Otto?
JMO that's probably the most realistic outcome.

I think I would too. I think we should be able to get one of the top 4 guys. To me, Bassitt isn't good enough to give up a draft choice for. Also, he is going to be 34 before the season starts.

 

[Kelleyman]

If we got Senga and a guy to close and hopefully one more reliever. That would be great IMO

Or another SP less the secondary reliever. A lot of good progress this year pitching wise could easily happen

 

[saddles]

If we got Senga and a guy to close and hopefully one more reliever. That would be great IMO

Or another SP less the secondary reliever. A lot of good progress this year pitching wise could easily happen

I like that plan. I think I want 2 relievers either way though.

 

[Kelleyman]

Oh well

 

[Kelleyman]

 

[Kelleyman]

Maybe we can generate something via trade. Roster for roster ala Seattle trade

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

Trusting CY, but the RP market continues to be active without our involvement.

 

[Duane1952]

Would you be disappointed with a starting rotation of Perez-Bassitt-Gray-Odorizzy-Dunning/Otto?
JMO that's probably the most realistic outcome.

Yes. That will not make them much better than they were last year.

 

[saddles]

Trusting CY, but the RP market continues to be active without our involvement.

I guess we can hope that he is aiming higher than some of the guys who have signed lately. I guess, there is always the chance they aren't looking to sign a reliever, but I sure hope that isn't the case.

 

[DTC]

Would you be disappointed with a starting rotation of Perez-Bassitt-Gray-Odorizzy-Dunning/Otto?
JMO that's probably the most realistic outcome.

Not entirely disappointed..in fact I’d be ok with it.

With that rotation there’s depth, so hopefully they won’t have guys like Spencer Howard, Arihara, Keichel, Miller, Hearn & Richards making 31 starts like the group I just mentioned did.

 

[DTC]

I guess we can hope that he is aiming higher than some of the guys who have signed lately. I guess, there is always the chance they aren't looking to sign a reliever, but I sure hope that isn't the case.

I think we just need 1 maybe 2 relievers. Should be able to field a strong bullpen going into next year.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

I guess we can hope that he is aiming higher than some of the guys who have signed lately. I guess, there is always the chance they aren't looking to sign a reliever, but I sure hope that isn't the case.

it's possible they are wanting to sort out the SP targets first. Not saying I agree with that strategy, but I understand the logic of it.

 

[saddles]

MLB.com's list of free agent relievers.

"Each player's 2023 seasonal age is included in parentheses next to his name. Players are grouped by position and ranked by their FanGraphs' wins above replacement total across 2021-22."


RELIEF PITCHERS

Edwin Díaz (29 years old, 5.0 WAR) -- Signed 5-year deal with NYM (Nov. 9)
Craig Kimbrel (34, 3.0)
Kenley Jansen (35, 2.9)
Taylor Rogers (32, 2.5)
Andrew Chafin (32, 2.3)
Michael Fulmer (30, 2.2)
Chris Martin (37, 2.1) signed today by Red Sox
Chad Green (32, 1.9)
Rafael Montero (31, 1.9) -- Signed 3-year deal with HOU (Nov. 15)
Jesse Chavez (39, 1.7) -- Signed MiLB deal with ATL (Nov. 12)
Danny Duffy (33, 1.6)
Adam Ottavino (37, 1.6)
Richard Bleier (36, 1.5)
Brad Boxberger (35, 1.5)
Garrett Richards (35, 1.3)
Matt Wisler (30, 1.3)
Pierce Johnson (31, 1.2)
David Phelps (35, 1.1)
Matt Moore (33, 1.1)
Luke Weaver (29, 1.1)
Joely Rodríguez (31, 1.0) -- Signed 1-year deal with BOS (Nov. 23)
Carlos Estévez (30, 1.0)
Jake McGee (36, 1.0)
Jimmy Nelson (33, 1.0)
Dominic Leone (30, 0.9)
David Robertson (38, 0.8)
David Price (36, 0.8)
Robert Suarez (32, 0.7)
Sean Doolittle (35, 0.7) -- Signed MiLB deal with WSH (Nov. 6)
Seth Lugo (33, 0.6)
José Álvarez (33, 0.6)
Luke Jackson (30, 0.6)
Corey Knebel (30, 0.6)
Wily Peralta (34, 0.6)
Steve Cishek (37, 0.6)
Trevor May (33, 0.6)
Cody Stashak (29, 0.6)
Archie Bradley (30, 0.5)
Nick Martinez (32, 0.5) -- Signed 3-year deal with SD (Nov. 22)
Hunter Strickland (33, 0.4)
Craig Stammen (38, 0.4)
Erasmo Ramírez (33, 0.4)
Matt Strahm (30, 0.4)
Jeff Hoffman (30, 0.4)
Jackson Stephens (29, 0.4)
Art Warren (30, 0.3)
Derek Holland (35, 0.3)
Aroldis Chapman (35, 0.3)
Will Smith (33, 0.3)
Tyler Duffey (32, 0.3)
Blake Parker (37, 0.3)
Mychal Givens (33, 0.3)
Scott Alexander (33, 0.3)
Manny Bañuelos (32, 0.3)
Jarlín García (30, 0.3)
Brad Hand (32, 0.2)
Alex Reyes (28, 0.2)
Miguel Castro (27, 0.1)
Jay Jackson (34, 0.1)
Evan Marshall (32, 0.1)
Vince Velasquez (30, 0.1)
Reyes Moronto (30, 0.1)
Tommy Kahnle (33, 0.0)
Robert Gsellman (28, 0.0)
Sean Reid-Foley (27, 0.0)
Alex Colomé (34, 0.0)
Will Harris (37, 0.0)
Ken Giles (32, 0.0)
Darren O'Day (40, 0.0)
Grant Dayton (34, 0.0)
Junior Guerra (37, 0.0)
Pedro Báez (35, 0.0)
Shelby Miller (32, 0.0) -- Signed 1-year deal with LAD (Dec. 2)
Justin Wilson (34, 0.0)
Jhoulys Chacín (34, 0.0)
Josh James (30, 0.0)
Miguel Díaz (28, 0.0) -- Signed MiLB deal with DET (Nov. 29)
Anthony Gose (32, 0.0) -- Reported MiLB deal with CLE
Carl Edwards Jr. (30, -0.1)
Trevor Gott (30, -0.1) -- Signed 1-year deal with SEA (Nov. 30)
Jandel Gustave (30, -0.1)
Keone Kela (29, -0.1)
T.J. McFarland (34, -0.1)
Brad Brach (36, -0.1)
Nick Anderson (32, -0.2) -- Signed 1-year deal with ATL (Nov. 11)
Touki Toussaint (27, -0.2)
Luis Perdomo (30, -0.2)
Hirokazu Sawamura (35, -0.2)
Nick Wittgren (31, -0.2)
Tyler Clippard (38, -0.2)
Jeurys Familia (33, -0.3)
Rex Brothers (34, -0.3)
Brandon Workman (33, -0.3)
Cam Bedrosian (30, -0.3)
Jimmy Yacabonis (31, -0.3)
Chasen Shreve (32, -0.4)
Heath Hembree (34, -0.4)
Zack Britton (34, -0.5)
Bryan Shaw (35, -0.5)
Joe Smith (38, -0.5)
Dan Winkler (32, -0.5)
Greg Holland (37, -0.5)
Daniel Norris (30, -0.5)
Alex Young (29, -0.6)
Hansel Robles (31, -0.6)
Sergio Romo (40, -0.6)
Ian Kennedy (37, -0.9)
Scott Oberg (31, N/A)

 

[saddles]

it's possible they are wanting to sort out the SP targets first. Not saying I agree with that strategy, but I understand the logic of it.

You are doing better than me then, because I can't see the logic of that kind of strategy.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

You are doing better than me then, because I can't see the logic of that kind of strategy.

Financially. What they spend on SP could affect what they have to spend on RP.

 

[saddles]

Financially. What they spend on SP could affect what they have to spend on RP.

I could see that possibly hindering them from signing a second reliever, but hopefully not the first one. Then again, you expect them to sign two expensive starting pitchers and I don't so maybe that is what is driving our difference in viewing how they can sign relievers.

 

[saddles]

I would think an improved bullpen would be a big selling point when trying to convince starting pitchers to sign here.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

I could see that possibly hindering them from signing a second reliever, but hopefully not the first one. Then again, you expect them to sign two expensive starting pitchers and I don't so maybe that is what is driving our difference in viewing how they can sign relievers.

Oh I don't think money should hinder them in any way. But it's also not my money, and if they've got a self-imposed limit to how much they want to spend, then I can see why they are choosing to wrap up a SP target (even just one of them) first before making any other moves.

EDIT: not saying that is what's happening, but it's an approach that does have logic I can understand, even if I don't agree with it.