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Several Spiderman and Wolverine. Just off the top of my head.

Spiderman has had so many changes in actor and reboots that they just overdid it. And Tobey Maguire sucks donkey balls.

I liked the Wolverine movies.
 

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The punnisher movie was crap. I like the Netflix series.

I really liked the movie itself.

But it wasn't the punisher in a lot of ways.
 

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I liked all the Iron Man movies, but don't remember Thor Dark World. Not ever sure I've seen it.

Iron Man 2 and 3 are some of the weakest marvel universe stuff. So is Dark World.
 

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Spiderman has had so many changes in actor and reboots that they just overdid it. And Tobey Maguire sucks donkey balls.

I liked the Wolverine movies.

he was good as Peter Parker though.

I thought the Wolverine movies were pretty meh at best.

haven't seen Logan yet, but it got mixed reviews as well.
 

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That's not my hang-up on Leto's joker at all. It's too goofy and weirdly eccentric. It's more fitting of a clown and even makes the animated joker look mature by comparison.
Eh, he's more of a clown than Ledger's joker, but much less of a clown than either Romero or Nicholson. Not to mention that Leto's joker was much closer to the comic book joker than LeLeto's also much more of the classic comic book joker than Ledger as well.

As @MilkSpiller22 is alluding to, I think you see Leto's joker as more clown like b/c he was just a background piece, a plot tool, in Suicide Squad. We didn't get to see him in any action--no real shooting, killing or brutality. The chance to see that is why I think a movie featuring Leto's joker would be a great idea.
 

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Eh, he's more of a clown than Ledger's joker, but much less of a clown than either Romero or Nicholson. Not to mention that Leto's joker was much closer to the comic book joker than LeLeto's also much more of the classic comic book joker than Ledger as well.

As @MilkSpiller22 is alluding to, I think you see Leto's joker as more clown like b/c he was just a background piece, a plot tool, in Suicide Squad. We didn't get to see him in any action--no real shooting, killing or brutality. The chance to see that is why I think a movie featuring Leto's joker would be a great idea.
I didn't like Nicholson's joker either even before The Dark Knight was made. The only Batman related story I've read was The Joker by Brian Azzarello which is more of a noirish story of his release from Arkham Asylum. It's supposed to be kind of a take on Ledger's batman but I think it's more or less a grittier version of the Joker from the cartoon series than any real life portrayal of him on film. I liked that version of Joker a lot more than Leto's as well.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I think he is fundamentally more of a gangster than an eccentric/zany hooligan.
 

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I didn't like Nicholson's joker either even before The Dark Knight was made. The only Batman related story I've read was The Joker by Brian Azzarello which is more of a noirish story of his release from Arkham Asylum. It's supposed to be kind of a take on Ledger's batman but I think it's more or less a grittier version of the Joker from the cartoon series than any real life portrayal of him on film. I liked that version of Joker a lot more than Leto's as well.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I think he is fundamentally more of a gangster than an eccentric/zany hooligan.

No one can touch Hamil’s joker.

Clearly #1.
 

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It’s already been done. Before he ever was joker
Voice acting does not hold a candle to live action acting. There are subtleties that Ledger hit that are simply impossible for Hamil to have achieved with just his voice.

Not to take anything away from Hamil. His Joker is great. It is just B&W when compared to Ledger’s color.
 

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I'm not a Batman or Joker fan but I preferred Leto's joker.
 

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I didn’t think he was THAT bad as Batman. He’s just been in some seriously awful movies.

Ben Affleck was pretty good both as Batman and as Bruce Wayne. He had probably the two best scenes in BvS, the one when he's driving through Metropolis while Superman is fighting Zod, and the Warehouse fight. Both are outstanding.

Too bad most of the rest of the movie was an incoherent mess.
 

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Thank you for putting me in my place before things got out of control. The movies depicting the Marvel characters that sucked over and over were not in fact Marvel movies.

Iron Man 2 and 3. Thor 1 and 2.

Marvel Studios has a great batting record, but they have a few misses.
 

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it really wasn't bad... the thing that people have to realize is that there are so many different source materials, and the different source materials may depict some characters differently...

The Leto Joker was in the suicide squad source material... even though the characters in the suicide squad span over a few different DC source comics, it is its own comic...

and in the suicide squad source material the joker is played very similarly to how Leto portrayed it... so the hate on leto is not fair, if you didn't like it then you don't like the way the suicide squad comics portray the joker...

Leto wasn't that bad. My big problem was in the character design, with all those tattoos and grilled teeth. The teeth looked particularly awful.
 

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he was good as Peter Parker though.

I thought the Wolverine movies were pretty meh at best.

haven't seen Logan yet, but it got mixed reviews as well.

Logan got Mixed reviews? It's probably the best X-Men movie Fox has made so far. Watch it, it is really great.

IMHO, it's' the second best Superhero movie ever, after TDK.
 
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